Count of Monte Fisto
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Thanks for the work you've put into this CR. I am just now entering the HMA. I can see I made a LOT of mistakes. Hopefully I can turn the ship around. I've wasted a lot of FP... :/
Greetings from a new player, D world. I started exactly 9 days ago, but my approach to games has always been rather 'systematic' so before I did too much damage to myself I sought out guides. Stumbled on this one and it appealed to me.
For any newbies reading this, I offer a slightly different perspective. I am playing Raven's teachings from the very beginning, bronze age even. I am currently in Iron Age and I did a few things that boosted me.
1) I applied to the top guilds in my world and got accepted by one of them. They are level 55 and clearly saw an ambitious upstart to give me a chance. +6 FP every day does not hurt.
2) I bought two starter packs which gave me a diamond boost + cultural buildings. That helped.
3) I jumped to Iron Age quickly and skipped building Zeus and Babel, was going to, but then read Raven's analysis and thought better of it.
4) Lastly I donated my FPs to guild mates who used my FP as currency and gave me Iron Age goods instead. This helped me build LoA as of today. Heavy questing generated a lot of blueprints, but using the 5 FP packs to place myself in other people's LoAs was the clincher.
Then I focused on the quests like a crazy person.
Attaching the screen shot of my city.
I do however have serious concerns moving to EMA , few reasons are:
1) Right now I can do the 6k coin quest and UBQ many times a day, can do the 15 FP once or twice a day too. In EMA none of that seems really viable.
2) I need about 180 thousand coins to change all my butchers to tanneries and I do not have the foggiest idea how to do that. Largely because of the above point, if I keep doing the UBQ then I really cannot hang on to money. If I stop and move to EMA, I still cannot do it because I wont be able to raise that cash.
3) Costs of switching all butchers to tanneries is super high, but the reward is rather meh. Right now I have 20 butcheries, I will be able to *probably* fit 26 tanneries in their place. That is an extra 3 quests.
4) Resource gathering is still very slow even with me pulling off a combined 40-50 quests a day, without being able to trade and exchanging FPs for goods from guild mates I would not have been able to pull off building the Lighthouse.
Otherwise I have no reason to stay in Iron Age anymore, but clearly torn about moving.
Anyone in D world, look me up plz, I am at 80 invites, but will accept you no matter what level you are! Will report back a bit later with progress. View attachment 5865
Greetings from a new player, D world. I started exactly 9 days ago, but my approach to games has always been rather 'systematic' so before I did too much damage to myself I sought out guides. Stumbled on this one and it appealed to me.
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I do however have serious concerns moving to EMA , few reasons are:
1) Right now I can do the 6k coin quest and UBQ many times a day, can do the 15 FP once or twice a day too. In EMA none of that seems really viable.
2) I need about 180 thousand coins to change all my butchers to tanneries and I do not have the foggiest idea how to do that. Largely because of the above point, if I keep doing the UBQ then I really cannot hang on to money. If I stop and move to EMA, I still cannot do it because I wont be able to raise that cash.
3) Costs of switching all butchers to tanneries is super high, but the reward is rather meh. Right now I have 20 butcheries, I will be able to *probably* fit 26 tanneries in their place. That is an extra 3 quests.
4) Resource gathering is still very slow even with me pulling off a combined 40-50 quests a day, without being able to trade and exchanging FPs for goods from guild mates I would not have been able to pull off building the Lighthouse.
Otherwise I have no reason to stay in Iron Age anymore, but clearly torn about moving.
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So here is something I was thinking above.
Other than having the resources, CR doesn't mention when to do the HMA to CA sprint (at least not that I saw).
I would suggest if you do PvP, a good time to do it might be the Monday of your neighbor-swap. I'd go further to say wait until one of the seasonal events (summer/winter/spring/fall) as they seem to keep the neighborhood from swapping longer (summer = 42 day neighborhood).
By doing it then, you should be able to maul your neighborhood as you will be one or two ages ahead. Muskets and Rangers will be available on ones way to clockmakers so you will have a decent advantage over them, at least until the next swap.
When you have the resources and when you have all the stated GB's at level 5 or higher. That's when you sprint.
As CR suggested, sprint on Monday after neighborhood swap and GE starts, and then you have the exact benefits you mentioned. The other benefit is that in GE, some of the prizes age up while the troops you have to fight in GE stay at the lower age.
This event building may not seem useful now, but I'm willing to bet it is worth it one day for discounted refined goods. It is tied for the smallest footprint and I believe therefore also tied for most efficient multi production building for that purpose. Also, if you have a lot of tech/provinces available, these events tend to be worth it just for random rewards. I scored 120 diamonds from the random rewards! Of course this is only if you have a ton of these saved for that purpose as you don't want to be forced out of age to complete an event in the future.Very nice!
I deviated from Cosmic Raven's advice, cuz I stayed in Bronze Age, raised Zeus & ToB. I am Quest looping.
But everything Cosmic Raven says I totally believe, especially the advice to bypass stupid event buildings.
But pay attention. Every now and then an actually useful building comes along: the Checkmate Square was one.
Like I don't believe this Marilyn Monroe event is useful. I'm not bothering with it at all.
As far as the Tanneries go, to save money, reduce the UBQ. That will save you some money. And it's just a matter of slowly accumulating money, FP packs and goods until you can do the jump to EMA. Then do the 'Tech Sprint' to unlock Clapboard house and Tanneries. I forget which is the best value Cultural building of EMA, but you want that. Better yet is to get Hagia built, then you will have zero need for any cultural buildings for ages.
Hagia blueprints are what I am seeking, for that reason.
FWIW, I am in almost the exact state of development as yourself. I currently have 18 Butcher Shops.
For Happiness though, I built 4 Triumphal Arches, cuz they don't cost diamonds. Those Amphitheaters cost diamonds. I would avoid those since you paid diamonds for them, then you won't want to sell them. So don't spend diamonds on that stuff.
I've got 2 expansions left to open up, plus will gain at least one more with Medals.
I've also got to build another Triumphal Arch. I don't have adequate Happiness. I'm okay as long as all 4 are motivated, but they are always motivated.
I'd like the answer to that too. GE starts Tuesday and it takes the age you are in into account when it starts, correct?Are you sure that moving on Monday gives better prizes but the same opponents?
I've always moved up on Tuesdays - neither the prizes nor the opponents in GE age up.
Are you sure that moving on Monday gives better prizes but the same opponents?
Hello guys! I missed the second slot of recurring quests when a bonus quest comes out of Myciena, it's making me spend goods from the industrial age, but I'm getting goods from the colonial era, where I'm parked, will the slot not come back unless I conquer the whole map of the industrial age?
I am still LMA and have triggered that quest.
I'm in CA with two RQ slots and Princess Myciena in a third slot. (It's on the diamond quest so working on my CF to maximize it so it is indefinitely paused.)
Guys, been reading this thread for a while. Thank you for all the guides and answers. They are very helpful. How do you guys think about the summer Palaces set and Elephant Fountain set, do they fit HQ?
But the eastern tower is a weaker sok, I don't have enough soks so I try to use them for now until I GE the replacement, you can put 3 extra eastern towers and 3 western towers around 2 connected palace in a 14*6 space which gives you 15fps and 35 goods per day, plus good amount of coins and supply and medals, I don't think 14 "finish supply" quest can give you that, the only concer would be keep them leveling up once I ready to move up, but since I gonna stay in CA for a while, there's a high chance I can get enough one-up kits for thatNo. Gargantuan space eaters...