As for face value, I have nothing to gain here, except wisdom as to how to handle a specific issue. All I care about at this point, is how I might have been a better person. I dont think I was outta line, but you never know until you ask the public.
That's where I believe Volodya and I are putzing on the fence. We want more information so we can give better feedback. I did kinda just jump into the weeds without talking to the topic... bad habit of mine.
From current information: My opinion is similar to others. It's sad/upsetting that cheaters are enabled by leadership. Top it off with a guild kick and the message delivered, I say good riddance to bad rubbish.
More detailed dissection:
TrinkOne said:
Well, now I have been kicked from the guild, because I have demanded we play fair. And whats funny is thet spoke for me, saying why I left:
As you all no doubt aware Trink has had his membership withdrawn. This action has not been taken lightly and all the Guild Owners are upset at this outcome.
There had been an issue raised around a shortage of FP from the swap threads between Trink and another player. The matter was investigates and an acceptable explanation was provided. Restitution over and above the short amount was made and further administrative action was taken against the offender and the matter had we thought been dealt with to the satisfaction of all involved.
Sadly this has proved not to be the case and Trink refused to let the matter go. He has been actively seeking a new guild for some time as a result and coupled with his messages to Global, to the Guild Owners and also an offensive message to the other player a decision was made to remove him from membership.
He has been a valued member and we were truly impressed with his progress to the point were we could see him a leader in the guild but sadly this will not now occur here. We do wish him every success in going forward and hope he enjoys his membership in The Recruit Council.”
Deep Red: If I understand the typo here, they = leadership and they are addressing the guild. I get why leadership must do this, but it sets up red flags for me. Power abuse comes very quick and fast in these situations.
Yellow: Superfluous information that, in my judgement, is meant to protect and project leadership as benevolent. It strikes me as subtle power moves and is why I judge it as similar to a political speech. It's telling the reader how to feel, since we should empathize with the 'hard' decisions the Guild Owners must do.
Light Red: Nuanced information delivery. Similar to yellow, but not superfluous because it delivers context information. Depending on delivery, it can give clues to the speech writers motivations. Membership withdrawn makes this all very official. Trink versus another player establishes the actors, which exposes Trink but not the 'other player'. Since I'm currently biased towards Trink, this feels unfair since it is outing Trink but protecting the other player(a known cheater). Leadership establishes they have 'taken action' but Trink is labeled as bad for refusing to let the matter go. The seeking a new guild feels like an easy potential fabrication to justify 'withdrawing membership'. The
offensive message to the other player is critical, because it contextualizes the previous global and guild owner messages under a negative light as well. Thus further justifying the leadership's decision to remove him from membership. TL;DR Trink bad! *boot*
But then they further mitigate by switching 'Trink bad' into 'sing praises and if only he wasn't bad they would have been so good!'. All to cap it off with a "Trink went to that guild". The relationship of The Recruit Council with the primary guild will determine if that statement was a back-handed insult or just letting the guild know that Trink has moved(been moved?) onto a 'good, related guild that is cool with us but not us'. I suppose that last bit could be green highlighted as well.
Green Highlight: More Intel could lead to more or 'better' feedback. Depending on how the cage was rattled, could give opinions/advice on other methods when rattling the cage. The Cage = Unjust system or current problem that has multiple parties involved.
Feel free to ignore these questions, because I'm just some crank on the internet.
~What were the demands made for playing fair? (Global/Guild Owner messages? How many? Tone of said messages?)
~Were messages sent to global and/or why would leadership list that as a factor in their decision?
~Offensive message? *chuckles, thinking about the plunder progress thread* How offensive we talking about here?
~Most Importantly: Did you find the message the guild sent out as reasonable? If not, what parts were bull?
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How much wood a would chuck Chuck if a would Chuck could chuck Norris?
If membership withdrawn messages are a a common practice, then a lot of my caution/dissection is overzealous. I'm used to more laid-back leadership, especially in video games. If these messages are unique or rare, then I find that to be evidence supporting Trink and the other player hold sway over guild members opinions and leadership felt the need to PR damage control the situation. Or I'm watching/reading too much politco/spy media. Probably the latter latter.
Anywho: I really wish I had better control over turning off my analytical side of my brain, but sometimes I get started and feel the need to finish it. Blah.
Also, people who deliberately/maliciously cheat are
garbage individuals I hold in low-regard.