DeletedUser26668
anarchy exists because many governments fail to provide for thier people
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DeletedUser26668
the people realize that they can do better on their own
DeletedUser11427
Even families have a government of sorts. While the first groups of people may have been large extended families, as these groups expanded in size, and had more frequent interaction with other groups, I suggest that laws & governments to enforce them, were created because people either couldn't or didn't do better on their own. Even this game has a structure / government. Children can & do create games with minimal rules, but like it or not, some sort of governing structure usually seems to evolve.
DeletedUser26154
Just because there is a loss of laws, doesn't always mean there will be murderous rampages. Obeying laws is one thing, respecting life is another. On a similar vein, atheists: They value life even more than a theist. Why? Their point of view offers no afterlife. So they believe that all we have is our time on Earth. However, when anarchy reins supreme, you can bet any money rising death tolls follow.
Mustapha00
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My knowledge of the mafia is not complete, but I am reasonably sure that not even all those within the mafia, much less those outside the mafia, are allowed to vote to replace the Dons on a regular basis, as is the case with most functioning democracies around the world.
Your taxation argument is a bit of a red herring, isn't it? Even the most enlightened governments must provide some level of services to its citizens (and even to non-citizens, with limits). Some method of obtaining revenue necessary to fund those services must be a part of that social contract. It need not be direct taxation of the country's citizens- bear in mind that the US government's expenditure for the first nearly century and a half was paid for by tariffs and land sales (with an exception for a portion of the duration of the Civil War) and that it took a Constitutional Amendment to permit the direct taxation of an individual's and a corporation's income. Further, most functioning democracies allow the electorate to vote for a change of course if the tax burden is thought to be excessive. Remedies, aside from the point of a gun, do exist.
Mustapha00
Well-Known Member
Well, given that Stalin, Hitler and Mao- devout Atheists all- were responsible for the deaths of well over 100 million individuals, one might be skeptical of the contention that atheists "value life more than a theist". Their own individual lives? Certainly. But you and I, not they, are expendable.
DeletedUser27332
What planet do you people live on ?
Back here on Earth there are a whole lot of Human beings and it's been my experience that a sizable percentage of them would eat idealistic dreamers alive if it weren't for the protection of the power structure
'You don't have to try all that hard to find yourself in a situation where the wolves are happy to see you
If you don't want to believe me go to a crowded local bar around 11:00pm on a Friday night and spout any opinion for long enough they'll come out of the woodwork
Most anarchists I've ever met tend to think that if people would only follow their concept of how one should live we'd be in a perfect world
Imperfect as it is the government is; it is tolerated because it keeps the chaos at a level where most of us can survive
Back here on Earth there are a whole lot of Human beings and it's been my experience that a sizable percentage of them would eat idealistic dreamers alive if it weren't for the protection of the power structure
'You don't have to try all that hard to find yourself in a situation where the wolves are happy to see you
If you don't want to believe me go to a crowded local bar around 11:00pm on a Friday night and spout any opinion for long enough they'll come out of the woodwork
Most anarchists I've ever met tend to think that if people would only follow their concept of how one should live we'd be in a perfect world
Imperfect as it is the government is; it is tolerated because it keeps the chaos at a level where most of us can survive
spnnr
Well-Known Member
Sorry I dont follow that logic but haven't had my two gallons of coffee as yet..Also the history of mankind since moving out of Africa has been shown to be the clubbing together for mutual benefit which later led to institutions being developed and expanded. To talk about the beauty of anarchy I am not sure its possible since aside from short lived incidences e.g emergencies it has not been able to survive let alone flourish and hence examined as a viable system.
spnnr
Well-Known Member
Really?
Its not a given :http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/hitlerstalin.html among other sources debunk the theory that they killed in the name of Godless and one or more were theist.Also the figure of 100 million maybe an overestimation due to a daily mail story http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
I also wonder how many ppl were and are still being killed in the name of religion?
DeletedUser25166
100 million is on the low side.