DeletedUser34480
Ouch.
What your post is a good example of, then?
Where have you found anything about "I do not believe I have been lucky"?
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Ouch.
What your post is a good example of, then?
Where have you found anything about "I do not believe I have been lucky"?
DeletedUser34480
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DeletedUser34480
By community expectation, how's that?
Did you expect a court notion or a congress bill?
How do you know, that if bus comes every 15 minutes then 30 is too much? That while knock out in adult training is sad, for kids it is out of acceptable? That you may return more or less money to your investor but you cannot get him broke?
What standard are you looking for?
It's a real life, not a roulette in casino.
Darth Mole
Well-Known Member
Wow - you're very boring aren't you.
Must be terrible being the only one who's right all the time.
Must be terrible being the only one who's right all the time.
DeletedUser30900
Let this guy win one time so he stops being mad 
there is nothing worth arguing anyway.
there is nothing worth arguing anyway.DeletedUser31225
Ok, the bus has not arrived yet ?
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Graviton
Well-Known Member
Because you just keep not getting it. It's fascinating, really.
DeletedUser
And...he's artificially inflating his post count by posting multiple one sentence replies.
DeletedUser31308
This could be a decent way to determine what kind of system would be best, based on what the community would want. But wait a second, you are currently arguing with the community expectation. You see all of these "Well-known/Active Member"s that are telling you it is good the way it is? We make up the community, and our expectation is clear: An unaltered random number generator is what we expect, based on (for me, at least, and certainly for others) over a decade of computer gaming experience.
Freshmeboy
Well-Known Member
Well...not THAT community...he wants the community of players that agree with him...wherever they may be...
DeletedUser30900
On the bus he’s waiting
DeletedUser34480
Right, you should take your own advise and "wait a second".
We were talking about real life examples.
That is a serious stretch.
DeletedUser34480
Talk about broken watch showing the right time twice a day.
You are right, now there is nothing to argue about left.
DeletedUser30900
So what are we argue about then? Right? But you are not on that side at all
DeletedUser31308
Start a petition if you want to insist the majority of the community, none of which we've heard from, agrees with the standards you want to impose on the randomness of this game.
DeletedUser31882
Can confirm something anecdotally: I've had a handful (5-6?) streaks where I won 3-4 times with 11 tickets on the 15% game. I think the 8x in a row (as in: direct sequential wins) may, in fact, be an exaggeration. I'm not 100% sure it was a malicious lie to strengthen their argument, but... *shrugs*.
My physics teacher and I had a discussion on this once. Thanks to it, I do my best to sit next to my toaster and seize the toast as it pops up. Just in case I am the 'lucky' 1 in 1.0X^eY something something multi-universe probability that said toast will launch at the correct trajectory to escape Earth's gravity. I will not let my toast escape me in such a fashion and will remain vigilant.
That's the problem. You expect it to be a non-casino rewarding game. Others here argue that it is, indeed, a casino game. Which makes it appear like you are the one separated from reality.
So the randomizer isn't broken by many people's standards that are arguing against you. Unfortunately, that wording has led to the trench warfare debate. If the framing/title was changed to "Should the carnival games be changed into Compounding probability instead of Equal probability for more fair and expected distribution of rewards?" [Credit to @THEKYLe for terminology] I think the conversation would have made more sense. Even the bus schedule & karate class examples would be strengthened, as they are good examples of what people expect/want out of a system. A safe karate class, on-time buses & a rewarding game mechanic seem like reasonable expectations. Alas, as they are now, they are corrupted by being related to a hypothetical broken randomizer, which requires a large logical leap. There is not sufficient data to sway people to look at it closer and take the concern seriously. Hence my suggestion earlier of needing data collection.
On the plus side, the framing has developed into an excellent example of what I call "Mean Girls" Trolling. Hopefully everybody is getting a kick out of this in one way or another.
DeletedUser27860
An interesting take on it. I would say I disagree with the casino Theory because initially they let you win then the let you lose then occasionally let you win at diminishing return to keep you playing the game though your netsum is a loss.
DeletedUser26120
It would indeed be very possible to program in something that ensures users get a minimum amount of a given item - to match percentages vs what has already been won. This would be useful all over the game - GE relics, chests, and so on.
It's a lot of work though.
It's a lot of work though.
DeletedUser30900
If we can use pseudorandom system instead of true random system, majority of the players gonna feel way better besides those guys run out of their luck of thier lives
DeletedUser15539
Yes, I do understand how probability works. And I do understand that the player who posted in guild chat " I got seven upgrades in 10 kicks" evens out my getting garbage from 3000 energy drinks. But understanding probability doesn't make me feel any better about it.
You know, if I had gotten anywhere close to 9 upgrades I would have spent diamonds to finish it off. But since I'm no where close, I'll just level great buildings instead to get the same benefits at zero additional space.