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Diamond offers

Sharmon the Impaler

Well-Known Member
I have seen 3 fully maxed out castles so this must be working well for Inno. My Castle is 115K through level 8 and I would not have bought diamonds without the huge Castle boost when I did.
 

Danegerous

New Member
I never said I haven't bought diamonds. I have spend hundreds on this game. Every time I bought diamonds I thought, well maybe now I'll get one of those 100% or 200% offers like my friends have gotten for years. Never happened. Doesn't make sense when I know for a fact that I have spent more money than they have yet they get offers and I don't.
 

wolfhoundtoo

Well-Known Member
How do you know you've spent more? Not everyone is accurate when telling people about what they spend on this game or well anything really.

How often do you buy? What size packs do you buy? Do you buy during events when the game currency comes out? Do you only buy during events? How many diamonds do you have on hand and how often and on what do you spend them? You want to figure out how to get those offers then you need to figure out what behaviors their system is using to make such offers.
 

NWWAkamai

Member
I love that one of the posters here called someone a freeloader in a game that's free....I buy diamonds to support the game and the employees that keep this going. I buy diamonds every 3 months and get the standard offer of 14000 diamonds for $99 monthly. If I received a better deal, I would grab it but at the rate they offer me, I only purchase as I'm getting low( Average of every 3 months). Not in a hurry to advance any of my cities, so this works for me.
 

wolfhoundtoo

Well-Known Member
Which means you are likely buying all of the diamonds that you would anyway so a better offer would just reduce the amount of revenue that they take in.
 

CherryButterfly

Active Member
I buy Diamonds every so often, and have made less purchases lately. I have definitely seen a drop in offers since I have not been making as many purchases, and in lower amounts. It only makes sense that they have figured out who buys and how often and how to motivate these players to buy more... I am sure if I upped my amount/regularity, I would get more offers, and better ones...
 

Kaidi

Active Member
It's scary how much I've spent on this game over the years - lol - but I have never gotten a 100% or 200% offer, or anything like that.
 

Pericles the Lion

Well-Known Member
I've been playing for 1 year. Bought a $79.99 package twice. December and May. This is my current offer on PC. I only open the window on iPad to get the free daily trinket and I see offers like this all the time. Thanks but no thanks.

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Aethelcatt VIII

Active Member
I've been playing for 1 year. Bought a $79.99 package twice. December and May. This is my current offer on PC. I only open the window on iPad to get the free daily trinket and I see offers like this all the time. Thanks but no thanks.

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One thing I noticed is that the offers I see in the browser version of the game are always much better than those available from the mobile app at the same moment, but the mobile app does give a daily free gift in that area, which is not available on a PC browser.
 

Periclez

Member
Inno has chosen to give certain regular spenders a better deal hoping they will spend more, rather than give all spenders an incentive. That is their choice. They are basically the "gods" of their game worlds and we don't know how they choose these spenders. Those chosen (assuming they even know) are unlikely to enlighten us on how to join the chosen few and Inno could change their algorithm anytime.

I would definitely use diamonds more often if they cost half to a third of what they cost me now. Would that translate into my spending more? I don't know, but apparently Inno's algorithm has decided the answer is no!
 

Mobius The Great

New Member
Eh, I considered buying the very cheapest diamond thing (~$5) a few events ago because I was one or two turns short to max a building. I only pay for things with prepaid debit cards however, and they cannot be used for overseas purchases, so no sale to me. Thanks for saving me money :)
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wolfhoundtoo

Well-Known Member
Inno has chosen to give certain regular spenders a better deal hoping they will spend more, rather than give all spenders an incentive. That is their choice. They are basically the "gods" of their game worlds and we don't know how they choose these spenders. Those chosen (assuming they even know) are unlikely to enlighten us on how to join the chosen few and Inno could change their algorithm anytime.

I would definitely use diamonds more often if they cost half to a third of what they cost me now. Would that translate into my spending more? I don't know, but apparently Inno's algorithm has decided the answer is no!

You are correct that we can't know what the requirements are for Inno's deals and that they can be changed how and when Inno likes but that doesn't mean you can't some educated guesses if you know someone who's getting the offers and they will share what and how they spend their diamonds. I'd venture a guess that it is at least partially done by diamond usage and of course by how you buy the packages. And you are mistaken in your belief that Inno is 'hoping' on this matter. It comes down to data crunching and people's spending habits which while not 100% certain is a bit beyond 'hoping'.
 

Pericles the Lion

Well-Known Member
Inno has chosen to give certain regular spenders a better deal hoping they will spend more, rather than give all spenders an incentive. That is their choice. They are basically the "gods" of their game worlds and we don't know how they choose these spenders. Those chosen (assuming they even know) are unlikely to enlighten us on how to join the chosen few and Inno could change their algorithm anytime.
I enjoy playing FoE but I am not a fan of INNO. Believe me, if I knew what it took for me to qualify for a 189% deal I would scream it from the rooftops. The fact is I am not a frequent buyer yet I get 189% deals often. I'm not sure that there's algorithm in play. I think that it's more like the candy display at the cash register. Most people pass it up but, every so often.....
 

wolfhoundtoo

Well-Known Member
the 189% isn't the offers people are referring to in this thread. they are referring to pop up offers that show up in the game window which if you click on them will tell you what deal is being offered. The one you are referring to is one that quite likely is like the candy display at the cash register.
 

Periclez

Member
You are correct that we can't know what the requirements are for Inno's deals and that they can be changed how and when Inno likes but that doesn't mean you can't some educated guesses if you know someone who's getting the offers and they will share what and how they spend their diamonds. I'd venture a guess that it is at least partially done by diamond usage and of course by how you buy the packages. And you are mistaken in your belief that Inno is 'hoping' on this matter. It comes down to data crunching and people's spending habits which while not 100% certain is a bit beyond 'hoping'.
Actually my best guess is their marketing people are hoping,after selecting a sample of their best customers which they sent to their computer people. Their computer people then examined a selection of best customer habits (on game and spending); and those players that conform within some percentage of the resulting profile get the offers. Of course it could be much simpler: Those who spend for awhile and then slow down or stop get the offers
 
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Johnny B. Goode

Well-Known Member
Actually my best guess is their marketing people are hoping,after selecting a sample of their best customers which they sent to their computer people. Their computer people then examined a selection of best customer habits (on game and spending); and those players that conform within some percentage of the resulting profile get the offers. Of course it could be much simpler: Those who spend for awhile and then slow down or stop get the offers
So I used to spend several hundred a year on Diamond purchases. I rarely, if ever, buy them anymore. I used to get great deal offers quite frequently when I was spending more consistently. I still get them several times a year. I am also not afraid to use piddling amounts of Diamonds. That extra turn in negotiations. Diamond expansions when aging up. Once in a great while that last BP. However, for the last 6 months or more I've been hovering around 35-40,000 Diamonds without buying any, even with the spending. And yes, I do still get the offers. Had one just about two weeks ago. (And I'm not talking about the one with event currency that most everyone probably gets.)
 

KeenWise

Member
After three straight years of never spending money and proudly telling those who did that Inno did not have my credit card, well they still do not, but now on Carthage the 200% offer persuaded me to give them a link to my Amazon Prime account. So now both Inno and Amazon know I will spend money on Foe, lol.

Oh well. I may spend more. It changes the game. After three years of playing the game, the change has been interesting.

But whatever scheme drives the offers, it makes the "value" of diamonds more volatile than cryptocurrency. And I think it's a shame that Inno plays head games with its customers, setting up scenarios where one player's real world money suddenly can't buy as much Inno game currency as another player with the same currency and spending at the exact same time. A shame and perhaps worse than that.

Consider: there are many stores that have special sales events or discounts only for certain shoppers, eg, those who have the store credit card. And car dealerships often advertise special deals based on credit ratings of buyers. But fair vendors offer special access equally to all people. All you need is to spend the right amount of money, or have the right credit card, or the right credit rating -- and that information is available to customers to prevent fraud. Just look at this thread -- Inno's treatment of customers and it's preferential pricing policies are not at all transparent.

What does that remind you of? Maybe a casino? Where high rollers are generally known to get perks or "comps," maybe access to special tables? And not every person who spends the same amount of money gets the same benefits? I suppose special access is its own cache. But even if not every person at a casino gets access to every table, every casino table pays every person without discrimination. We're supposed to be at the same table.
 
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UBERhelp1

Well-Known Member
It's a virtual currency. Inno can charge whatever they want for it. They can make it as expensive or cheap for a player as they want. It makes sense though that they will offer cheaper deals to big spenders. As said above, it's a casino. They don't want to seat everyone at the same table. If they can manage to get you to invest more money into a currency that literally costs them nothing, then why wouldn't they offer better deals? Their whole business model is built around in game purchases. That's the only place they're getting money, since there's no ads or physical products. It's a lot better to get something useful for that purchase rather than random loot crates *cough* EA *cough* where you don't know what you're getting.
 

Johnny B. Goode

Well-Known Member
But even if not every person at a casino gets access to every table, every casino table pays every person without discrimination. We're supposed to be at the same table.
You seem to be saying that in addition to the Diamond deals that are offered to spenders, they get preferential odds from the RNG. Is that right? Because if you are, I can testify that it is hogwash. I have gotten the same average results overall as anyone else in the 6+ years I've been playing, whether I've been spending a lot or nothing at all. I have hot streaks and cold streaks, just like everyone else. The difference between me and you isn't whether or not we spend money, it's whether or not we recognize and understand the realities of an impartial RNG. I do. You, and a whole load of other folks over the years, apparently do not.
 
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