FALL EVENT 2017

[bobaz11]

The 'new' event list doesn't show the entire quest. i.e. Finish 4 hr production or ??????? what comes after?
Once again I could not finish the quests because of lack of resources. Not enough land or supplies, but plenty of coins. It would be helpful and add to the success if coins could be used to acquire supplies or land = something like the following. The COIN cost of a supply or land is based on the current age.

 

[DeletedUser26965]

The 'new' event list doesn't show the entire quest. i.e. Finish 4 hr production or ??????? what comes after?
Once again I could not finish the quests because of lack of resources. Not enough land or supplies, but plenty of coins. It would be helpful and add to the success if coins could be used to acquire supplies or land = something like the following. The COIN cost of a supply or land is based on the current age.

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What is that?

 

[DeletedUser]

What a fantastic Fall event ....the best ever ...keep up the good work INNO

Speaking of nonsensical babble.

 

[DeletedUser27889]

I think @bobaz11 is trying to make a proposal and that is the image they created to show it.

There is a proposal section here on the forum for things like that and you can read the stickies to see the format. However this idea is on the do not suggest list because it involves trading resources. Your image is very well made, so well it confused me for a moment trying to figure out where in the game it was from. Sorry you spent all that time creating something we can't vote on.

 

[DeletedUser26965]

I think @bobaz11 is trying to make a proposal and that is the image they created to show it.

There is a proposal section here on the forum for things like that and you can read the stickies to see the format. However this idea is on the do not suggest list because it involves trading resources. Your image is very well made, so well it confused me for a moment trying to figure out where in the game it was from. Sorry you spent all that time creating something we can't vote on.

Good grief, first I thought the guy was on the wrong game forum then I thought it was some hack site he was promoting Should use FoE themes and color palettes and indicate as a game suggestion

 

[DeletedUser27889]

Good grief, first I thought the guy was on the wrong game forum then I thought it was some hack site he was promoting Should use FoE themes and color palettes and indicate as a game suggestion

It confused me too when I saw it. I think it's a proposal but could be mistaken. If I didn't know the game so well I would have spent awhile hunting down that screen in my game to turn all my coins into goods and land.

 

[DeletedUser]

Keep those events coming INNO we all love them no matter what format you use and pay no heed to these Well Known members who spend more time with their innumerable babble by playing in one or two worlds and spending more than enough time in the forum trying to dictate how you should be making money and wearing out their welcome with endless memes etc.

That's right, pay no heed to the vast majority that provided feedback and thought this was the worst seasonal Event we've seen. Listen to the one player who posts uncritical praise of every little thing about the game. Apparently, he doesn't think you really want feedback about events/game features. He thinks all you want us to do is provide validation for anything you decide to do to the game/events. If he's right, please let us know, so we can quit wasting our time providing you with constructive criticism. Thanks.

 

[DeletedUser26154]

The only event even @ardak kumerin didn't like and buy diamonds

I buy Diamonds when I want them, regardless of a contest.
I bought the three Ocean Future Diamond expansions and 4 Ocean Future Premium Supply buildings.
I also have 7 Arctic Future Premium Supply buildings.
I love Premium Supply buildings.

I do not like this event from a gambler's point of view.
As I mentioned in the beginning, I was skunked 5 times in a row, then left the table.
That means I do not personally endorse the event as fun for the players.
The baskets are bottomless pits of unrecoverable loss.

What do I mean by "Unrecoverable Loss"?
That means you can lose forever with nothing to gain from taking those attrition hits.
With the Casino Wheel, you have so many and that's it.
After that, all that's left for you to win are better prizes.

Yes someone can spin the wheel on you while you are doing it.
Just wait 10 minutes and if you see no one spinning, odds are no one can.
That's when you make your move, after everyone else spent their tickets.
You don't roll against someone else's hunt out of respect.

As far as a Player goes, the event was not bad.
If you don't mind getting a mix of many small piles of things.
I did well for the cost... meaning for free.
2 Soks, 2 Reno Kits, 2 One-up kits, 2 Bazaars, and several needed Blueprints.

My complaint is there was nothing to encourage the players to spend money.
I propose having the baskets like the Casino Wheel.
You can only win each prize once, and when the main prize is won, the entire basket resets.
My first 4 big baskets were all Boost Crates.

Inno, if you happen to look at this thread, please heed my advise.
There was nothing in this event that encouraged me to spend any money on it.
I spend almost $300 on the 2017 Summer Event, and I have no regrets at all.
Because the contest was arranged with many stop-losses and plenty of worth-while prizes.

The Endless Loss Baskets are a nightmare for players who might spend money.
New players will not understand the probability curves and tables.
All they will see is playing a Forge of Empires event for the first time and getting skunked 4 times in a row.
With no ending of aforementioned skunking in sight.

Final Summary:



Great for free stuff but horrible as a money-maker event.

 

[DeletedUser12620]

Thanks for the wells, let's see diamonds during the winter event.

 

[DeletedUser26965]

I buy Diamonds when I want them, regardless of a contest.
I bought the three Ocean Future Diamond expansions and 4 Ocean Future Premium Supply buildings.
I also have 7 Arctic Future Premium Supply buildings.
I love Premium Supply buildings.

I do not like this event from a gambler's point of view.
As I mentioned in the beginning, I was skunked 5 times in a row, then left the table.
That means I do not personally endorse the event as fun for the players.
The baskets are bottomless pits of unrecoverable loss.

What do I mean by "Unrecoverable Loss"?
That means you can lose forever with nothing to gain from taking those attrition hits.
With the Casino Wheel, you have so many and that's it.
After that, all that's left for you to win are better prizes.

Yes someone can spin the wheel on you while you are doing it.
Just wait 10 minutes and if you see no one spinning, odds are no one can.
That's when you make your move, after everyone else spent their tickets.
You don't roll against someone else's hunt out of respect.

As far as a Player goes, the event was not bad.
If you don't mind getting a mix of many small piles of things.
I did well for the cost... meaning for free.
2 Soks, 2 Reno Kits, 2 One-up kits, 2 Bazaars, and several needed Blueprints.

My complaint is there was nothing to encourage the players to spend money.
I propose having the baskets like the Casino Wheel.
You can only win each prize once, and when the main prize is won, the entire basket resets.
My first 4 big baskets were all Boost Crates.

Inno, if you happen to look at this thread, please heed my advise.
There was nothing in this event that encouraged me to spend any money on it.
I spend almost $300 on the 2017 Summer Event, and I have no regrets at all.
Because the contest was arranged with many stop-losses and plenty of worth-while prizes.

The Endless Loss Baskets are a nightmare for players who might spend money.
New players will not understand the probability curves and tables.
All they will see is playing a Forge of Empires event for the first time and getting skunked 4 times in a row.
With no ending of aforementioned skunking in sight.

Final Summary:

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Great for free stuff but horrible as a money-maker event.

If people can't understand 20% of something well they shouldn't be gambling in the first place. You seem to have an odd view of it yourself. It's simple statistical probability, the more you spend the more you'll get and you know it's 20%. Now if you're the kind of person that rolls 10 times and expects 2 positive outcomes then you shouldn't be gambling but you know if you roll 1,000 times you will draw closer and closer to that 20% because that's just how it works. That's the incentive to spend more. Because you have to spend more if you want to get nearer that 20% over the long run. Because that's how probability works. So had you bought enough apples to buy 100 large baskets you would have been closer to 20 SoK's then had you just played with what you could get from doing the quests, aiding and collecting trees. It's not an "endless loss" of anything.

 

[DeletedUser12620]

I buy Diamonds when I want them, regardless of a contest.
I bought the three Ocean Future Diamond expansions and 4 Ocean Future Premium Supply buildings.
I also have 7 Arctic Future Premium Supply buildings.
I love Premium Supply buildings.

I do not like this event from a gambler's point of view.
As I mentioned in the beginning, I was skunked 5 times in a row, then left the table.
That means I do not personally endorse the event as fun for the players.
The baskets are bottomless pits of unrecoverable loss.

What do I mean by "Unrecoverable Loss"?
That means you can lose forever with nothing to gain from taking those attrition hits.
With the Casino Wheel, you have so many and that's it.
After that, all that's left for you to win are better prizes.

Yes someone can spin the wheel on you while you are doing it.
Just wait 10 minutes and if you see no one spinning, odds are no one can.
That's when you make your move, after everyone else spent their tickets.
You don't roll against someone else's hunt out of respect.

As far as a Player goes, the event was not bad.
If you don't mind getting a mix of many small piles of things.
I did well for the cost... meaning for free.
2 Soks, 2 Reno Kits, 2 One-up kits, 2 Bazaars, and several needed Blueprints.

My complaint is there was nothing to encourage the players to spend money.
I propose having the baskets like the Casino Wheel.
You can only win each prize once, and when the main prize is won, the entire basket resets.
My first 4 big baskets were all Boost Crates.

Inno, if you happen to look at this thread, please heed my advise.
There was nothing in this event that encouraged me to spend any money on it.
I spend almost $300 on the 2017 Summer Event, and I have no regrets at all.
Because the contest was arranged with many stop-losses and plenty of worth-while prizes.

The Endless Loss Baskets are a nightmare for players who might spend money.
New players will not understand the probability curves and tables.
All they will see is playing a Forge of Empires event for the first time and getting skunked 4 times in a row.
With no ending of aforementioned skunking in sight.

Final Summary:

View attachment 7644

Great for free stuff but horrible as a money-maker event.

Gee, it's called being patent....

 

[DeletedUser26154]

You seem to have an odd view of it yourself.

It's not a view, so much as a feel for it.
Math alone wont get you too far at a gambler's table.
The baskets don't allow you a limit on how many horrid-prizes you can win.
A Casino Wheel does.

I've spent 2 grand on the game, and played every event to the point of figuring out the best way to do it.

Now if you're the kind of person that rolls 10 times and expects

All that the %'s let you know, is that it's potentially available.
You can hit 10 boost crates in a row with a basket.
The Casino Wheels don't allow that.
The Wheels are Superior to the baskets because they have a bottom.

Because that's how probability works.

In this timeline, at least.

 

[DeletedUser12620]

It's not a view, so much as a feel for it.
Math alone wont get you too far at a gambler's table.
The baskets don't allow you a limit on how many horrid-prizes you can win.
A Casino Wheel does.

I've spent 2 grand on the game, and played every event to the point of figuring out the best way to do it.



All that the %'s let you know, is that it's potentially available.
You can hit 10 boost crates in a row with a basket.
The Casino Wheels don't allow that.
The Wheels are Superior to the baskets because they have a bottom.



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In this timeline, at least.

Hmm, so where is your "I'm an INNO lackey" tattoo?

 

[DeletedUser26965]

It's not a view, so much as a feel for it.
Math alone wont get you too far at a gambler's table.

Yeah I think we found the problem. I played poker for years and overall, despite losses, in the end made money. Walking through the casinos to the poker room I can tell ya I never stopped to pull a "wheel", no matter how much I "felt" it. Gambling is not for the emotional, check that at the door before entering.

All that the %'s let you know, is that it's potentially available

That's right and the beauty is they tell you exactly what that potential is, it will converge to 20%, you don't have to guess or do trials, it's right there shown to you. Quite the opposite for your beloved summer wheel by the way. We had no idea what the % was for the thing one wanted to come up. If I recall I think I watched one guy spin over 60x to get SoK to come up and guess what, I took it from him. And just how much junk did he get along the way refreshing the wheel to get to that SoK I stole? Well, at least 60 junks lol and a bad time at the wheel that day.

 

[DeletedUser26154]

Gambling is not for the emotional, check that at the door before entering.

No kidding on that.
I didn't meat "feel" in that way.
I "feel" how Geometric Theorems work.
It's a way of understanding numbers, without counting them.



It's a feel for the flow and how they come and go in the Dance of Probability.

 

[DeletedUser26965]

I "feel" how Geometric Theorems work.

That's simply gobbledygook and overcomplicating things. It's simple, buy more to roll more to get closer to the stated %, it's really just that simple.

 

[DeletedUser26154]

buy more to roll more to get closer to the stated %

The difference is in the stop-loss mechanics.
You can go forever with horrid-tier prizes with the baskets.
You can not go forever with the Casino Wheel.
It'll run out of prizes then reset.

You can't get 50 boost crates from the same Casino Wheel.
But you can from the same basket.
That is what this is all about, and nothing else.
The limits to the losses.



I always get to the bottom of things, then focus on the real and true.

 

[DeletedUser26965]

The difference is in the stop-loss mechanics.
You can go forever with horrid-tier prizes with the baskets.
You can not go forever with the Casino Wheel.
It'll run out of prizes then reset.

You can't get 50 boost crates from the same Casino Wheel.
But you can from the same basket.
That is what this is all about, and nothing else.
The limits to the losses.

The "stop-loss mechanics" as you call it is the 20%, it's not "well maybe you'll get 20%", you will get closer to that 20% the more you roll. that's just plain and simple fact no matter how much mysticism one wants to apply with magical thinking. The same is for the wheel. If you wanted SoK in the Fall Event you simply have to keep buying baskets, you will get one and the more you keep buying the more and more you'll converge close to that 20% over the long run. Same for the Wheel, you want SoK in the wheel you have to keep refreshing for it to come up, that also has a % attached to it, we simply don't know what it was but we know it will come up. THEN yes it's a guaranteed win IF no one steals it forcing you to refresh again and again and again to get to it, no different than buying a basket again and again and again till you get the prize you want which by the way no one can steal. The big negative to the wheel is the stealing, that would be like me watching you buying baskets and when you got SoK to pop up I took it and you would have to buy more baskets. If anything the wheel is worse and the baskets are guaranteed.

 

[DeletedUser26154]

The "stop-loss mechanics"

Are a numerical limit to how many bad prizes one can get per basket/wheel.
It prevents a player from getting an infinite number of Horrible-Tier prizes.
The Casino Wheels are Superior from all perspectives.
They have a stop-loss built in.

The big negative to the wheel is the stealing,

That happens so rare, from my experience.



If you don't see anyone spin in 10 minutes, that's when you make your move.

 

[DeletedUser26965]

Are a numerical limit to how many bad prizes one can get per basket/wheel.
It prevents a player from getting an infinite number of Horrible-Tier prizes.

You didn't get "bad" prizes in the Summer Event? Want me to start pulling comments about "bad" prizes? Regardless the issue isn't "bad" prizes, you're making stuff up with this "stop-loss mechanics" thing, it's about getting the "thing" you want. For some it's SoK's, others Wishing Wells, or Rogue Hideout or the event buildings etc. No matter what you'll get bad prizes along the way, same for Relics from ToR and chests from GE, you won't always get 100fp's or a Terrace Farm, you'll get a bunch of bad prizes along the way but you know if you do it enough you will, again, get closer to that stated %.

The Casino Wheels are Superior from all perspectives.

That's absurd, in all respects. The casino wheels are set by how many slots there are to win from and the payout ratios, this all of course depends on the wheel and prizes. And the house will always have the advantage. Again not applicable here because we're dealing with a simple % that you will get closer over the long run.

They have a stop-loss built in.

Stop-loss is a term regarding trading http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/stoplossorderdetails.asp

There's no point in using it here.