Good grief man, do you believe in square circles too? Okay, look if inno never went out of their way to call point farming abuse in the first place I wouldn't be here complaining about this crap. That's inno's word not mine "'farm' lots of ranking points..abused by players..." See? They said that not me. Then they go on and fix that GvG point farming, what they call abuse, and leave the other point farming I'm talking about and call it "a completely acceptable practice". That's a square circle. That's what I have an issue with. You can't in one instance tell me something is abuse then turn around and call it "a completely acceptable practice" and expect me to buy that.
sooner or later they go and find someone else.I'm quite aware of that as a viable strat, though it leaves you very weak defenses, but really not the point. Really, it's not even the attackers that are the issue here.we just put 80 spearman. Tons of points for the attacker
I'm well aware of how annoying people hitting your guild sectors are to the owing guild (I've done it and had it done to my guild). That doesn't change the fact that the behavior you describe could be for some other reason that you describe:
1) Maybe you guys just kill them off so often they grab the power that they can.
2) Maybe they want to harass you.
3) Maybe they want to grab what power they can as cheaply as they can.
4) Maybe they are doing as you suggested: looking for battle points. of course that describes pretty much ALL of GVG.
5) Maybe they think they can run you out of medals.
6) Maybe despite what you think because YOUR the one being attacked and can't stop it (as everyone who owns GVG sectors learns sooner or later) that you want it to be some kind of abuse because quite frankly it costs you far more resources than it does your attacker. Welcome to GVG.
What specifically do you have a problem with? That they attack you every day? How is that abuse? Isn't that the point of GVG (to fight other guilds)? Are you complaining that landing should cost a lot more medals? Sure but then by that standard the rest of the medal cost would go higher as a result and you'd be spending a lot more than 40,000 medals to retake the sector. Are you complaining about the spear fighters? Make a proposal to change that then.....although I've seen posts about that before that went no where. What solution would you suggest? Banning players that attack too much? Complex rules that state you can only attack every 2 days (would that no longer be 'abuse')?
Let me summarize my post to one line: The behavior you describe mimics the normal actions of GVG and to modify that impacts the basic functions of GVG.
P.S. They can't point farm you if you drop the sectors. If you really want you can put spear fighters in for defense and they'll get few points. so if you are correct that it is only the points that they want they'll go elsewhere now won't they?)
Too bad none of that had anything to do with my original complaint. People somehow can't comprehend the post is not about the guy point farming, but about inno and with their conflicting position on the matter.Now, stop being intelligent and using logic to counter his original complaint. That's just not fair!
Funny, I always thought the goal of GvG was "to expand your guild's territory and hold on to it, to level up your guild and gain bonuses and glory for all its members." And not "loopholes...to 'farm' lots of ranking points" but hey, I guess I just imagined all that huh?
First, I'm not complaining about a person farming points in GvG, I'm complaining about innos position on point framing in GvG.
Not really... we already have a notion that rape is a crime. Point farming is on it's face morally neutral. Whether and how it should be acceptable in the game is up to Inno.
Point farming gains bonuses (and glory, I guess) for participating members. And it does gain some power points for the guild overall.
But at any rate, it seems pretty clear that your actual argument here is not so much that Inno is being inconsistent, as that you think point farming shouldn't be allowed at all. Which is an opinion you're welcome to have. But the only practical way I could see to achieve that goal is to disallow battle points from GvG to count for towers. Would you consider that an improvement?
The loopholes were things that made it too easy. We're playing a game, the point of a game is to provide a challenge. Point farming was too easy, so they made it harder. That doesn't mean that point farming is a moral abomination, it means that it was too easy a way to get too many points.
No I'm not, in any way.
That's untrue, both in the context of a game and of life in general.
Well, that is what they said, no?
Sure, they called point farming GvG a "completely acceptable practice" after they called the purpose of GvG something else then went on to shut down methods to point farm.
