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Feedback for the Guild Expeditions Update: New Trials to Come!

UBERhelp1 said:
You've made the argument that Trial 4 is flat out impossible for the average player.
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No, I have not. The point I made is that you now have to do a higher Trial to get less Diamonds. Try to keep up.
UBERhelp1 said:
Not how this works at all... it would be more like "Hey, you get $42 for this job, but there's a 16.5% chance you can get an extra $48" (using Trial 1 data here since that's the only one with 42 guaranteed). This change is "You get $60 flat, always, as long as you do a good enough job."
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Actually, no. The first part of your post actually refutes this statement. Here:
UBERhelp1 said:
Only a tiny minority actually shared Trials diamond info - afaik, I'm the only one who actually built a system for it, and while it was largely successful, a very small proportion of the active playerbase used it.
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So, yes, it was not really random if there was a system available to get the info with a bit of work. Nice try, though.
UBERhelp1 said:
Neither is the case, but I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you otherwise if you're so set on that classification.
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Oh, please, you've posted before about the fact that they've shared information with you that you won't share with us. I've been here and paid attention, dude. And if you profit even a little from those videos, then it isn't at all a stretch to consider you a de facto Inno employee or contractor.
UBERhelp1 said:
Depending on which previous numbers you are referring to, the fan wiki has all the data for GE up to and including the introduction of Level 5, I believe. You may have to dig through the history of edits to see it, but it is there.
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I don't know if you realize this, but the fan wiki is not nearly as reliable as it once was. I've gone there several times recently to look up info from the past and their information in many cases is either missing or just not correct. Besides, you can't argue that you providing the random Diamond locations is irrelevant and then point to a third party site to support your viewpoint. If you having the random Diamond locating system is irrelevant then so is the fan wiki info.

Bottom line is that people that went to the trouble to find and use the random Diamond location info are getting a major nerf. As in a 33% reduction in GE Diamonds. And those who only got the guaranteed Diamonds and sometimes the random one are about breaking even. And the ones that didn't bother to do enough to get even the guaranteed Diamonds are the only ones who could remotely be considered to be getting a buff, but only if they do a lot more GE (and higher) than they did before.
 
Tell me if I'm reading this wrong?? "Note that you can still receive typical encounter rewards you’d normally expect."

I did trial 33. After every temple I got Frags for FOY. Not TF or Feathers like we used to? In my book that isn't the same. Is it to you?

This is from the GE update.
The GE stores refresh every Tuesday at midnight server time. The reward selection is pre-set, so only the item limits will update.

Play the encounters to win all the new currencies. The higher the Trial and difficulty, the more challenging the encounter, the more likely you are to receive higher-value currency. Note that you can still receive typical encounter rewards you’d normally expect. From every encounter, you can either get the currencies or familiar Fragments (Forgotten Temple and the Fountain of Youth), along with other resources you could normally get, including Diamonds

To me they just made GE a joke. Years ago you used to get 100's of Diamonds for GE. So I don't know who they are trying to BS.
 
puzzle63 said:
Tell me if I'm reading this wrong?? "Note that you can still receive typical encounter rewards you’d normally expect."

I did trial 33. After every temple I got Frags for FOY. Not TF or Feathers like we used to? In my book that isn't the same. Is it to you?

This is from the GE update.
The GE stores refresh every Tuesday at midnight server time. The reward selection is pre-set, so only the item limits will update.

Play the encounters to win all the new currencies. The higher the Trial and difficulty, the more challenging the encounter, the more likely you are to receive higher-value currency. Note that you can still receive typical encounter rewards you’d normally expect. From every encounter, you can either get the currencies or familiar Fragments (Forgotten Temple and the Fountain of Youth), along with other resources you could normally get, including Diamonds

To me they just made GE a joke. Years ago you used to get 100's of Diamonds for GE. So I don't know who they are trying to BS.
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FoY is the same rewardwise as the WW
 
I just now started moving up trials because if the update. I don't know if it was smart. I did trial 24 last week. Is it worth trying to go higher and if so, is it best to go to the highest trial or is there an ideal stopping trial for rewards. Also what kind of boosts would i need to fight to the end on auto?
 
honey55 said:
I just now started moving up trials because if the update. I don't know if it was smart. I did trial 24 last week. Is it worth trying to go higher and if so, is it best to go to the highest trial or is there an ideal stopping trial for rewards. Also what kind of boosts would i need to fight to the end on auto?
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If there's a single platinum reward you want (i.e. just the terrace farm), you stop at 27.

If you want the new temple (sustainable for 4 out of 6 weeks), that's only on trial 55.
 
xivarmy said:
If there's a single platinum reward you want (i.e. just the terrace farm), you stop at 27.

If you want the new temple (sustainable for 4 out of 6 weeks), that's only on trial 55.
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I really haven't looked up the new temple but what kind of boosts would i need to do trial 55. Pretty sure i can do 27 with what i have.
 
honey55 said:
I really haven't looked up the new temple but what kind of boosts would i need to do trial 55. Pretty sure i can do 27 with what i have.
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Trial boosts keep going up linearly. Trial 55 has a boost of up to 20680%. In SASH I'd want slightly higher than that myself to do it - in some other eras you can probably get away with somewhat lower than that.
 
The new GE Trials is a scam. You can get 4 of each of the terrace farm and then the rest is absolute crap left over . No "rare" even at Trial 39 , Inno sold us crap yet again. 9K away from the max where the counter stops and nothing left to get but ritual flames. Inno has zero ethics.
 
Sharmon the Impaler said:
To illustrate , I have bought everything I can from the "Uncommon" and have 1/2 the "rewards" unusable. This is a sham even by Inno standards.

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You have to buy everything every week to spend the "max" earned currency. i.e. each week there's 3600 currency of stuff and 3600 currency rewarded if you're past the trial where that currency caps. If you say spend 2 weeks earning the max 3600 and only buying the 1200 you care about and "saving" the 2400 then you'll start a week at 4800. And if you earn 3600, there's only 3600 to buy so you'll also end at 4800.

This shop is essentially the old rewards with extra steps (that is if you forget to buy out the rewards one week, instead you get un-spendable coins in the future unless you take time off or do a lower trial that doesn't reward max currency). GE shop is the worst shop - it's primarily added nuisance with very little upside.

The only upside is if you're at a trial where you don't earn max of a type of coin - then you can potentially get all of the one you care about, and not worry about higher trials that would be needed to buy the stuff you don't care about :p i.e. if you can handle trial 27 you can get your platinum terrace farm and not worry that you can't afford the platinum serpent statue and serpent chain that you didn't want anyways. Where under the old system you'd have to go higher til they all cap.
 
I can get to the end but after I will be going back to level 35 and staying there. You only get 1/3 the rewards if you play at the highest level. Nice work Inno.


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Sharmon the Impaler said:
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The coins are unbalanced and you can only spend about 1/2 on Trial 54.
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You don't get extra common coins on any lower difficulty.

Trial 54 offers 3290 * 1 of the common coins.
Trial 7 offers 165 * 2 + 219 + 439 + 274 + 439 + 713 + 438 * 2 = 3290

Every trial in between them offers 3290 common coins too. Just split up differently.

Trials below 7 have less common coins.

It just happens common coins are the only one with more stuff to buy than there is max coins rewarded :p

600 * 3 + 40 * 20 + 40 * 15 + 40 * 10 + 200 * 5 + 40 * 20 + 40 * 20 + 40 * 20 + 120 * 8 + 40 * 20 = 9160.
 
I'm thinking i might just buy my diamond limit with the common coins and than nothing else. It can just always be full. Just not really seeing a point of collecting more frags for inventory. It's already overloaded. I don't use the AD except for quests. I suppose it'll come back and bite me but I'm weary of too many stores. I like the QI one and the gbg ones are ok but i don't like having so many
 
Sharmon the Impaler said:
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The coins are unbalanced and you can only spend about 1/2 on Trial 54.
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Ah. You get exactly the same amount of coins that you need to buy out everything at high enough trials (snakes from trial 16+, coyotes from 25+, and statues from 34+). If you have extra, that means you didn't spend them in an earlier season. Also, there is no way to ever spend the extra due to you getting the exact amount required, so unless you skip GE for a few weeks, you will be holding on to that extra currency.
 
Having wormed my way into the mid level GE trials I have to say that the repeated instances of "Double Temple of Relic Blueprints" as a station reward are a real boner for me. A little thoughtfulness on the part of the developers would go a long way here.
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