xivarmy
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Absolutely a possibility. If you were somehow convinced it was worth it in the first place.
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Absolutely a possibility. If you were somehow convinced it was worth it in the first place.
Sharmon the Impaler
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The costs just to bump a legendary is ridiculous. 
Just An Observer
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...and especially so for some A/D instead of something truly remarkable in abilities.
WillyTwoShoes
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Tedious and may I add, "a waste of resources".
I noticed that the stock 3 star Spartan (Heroic Taverne) was replaced today by a 0 Star lvl 1 Boudica.
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Sharmon the Impaler
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I sold off 4 Spartans to get the 600 victory coins or whatever they call them. Trading red for blue stats and needing 8 seasons of the tavern to do it. I am not seeing or feeling the excitement yet for some reason.
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WillyTwoShoes
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Currently debating exchanging my collected Spartans also. I need to look things over and chew on it awhile.
Sharmon the Impaler
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Spartans I think they are called. You collect one about every 4 weeks and they are only red. I have 2 used and dumped the other 4.Currently debating exchanging my collected Spartans also. I need to look things over and chew on it awhile.
WillyTwoShoes
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As I noted I was debating the merits of exchanging my Spartans for Valor Tokens also. Given that they were the stock ally in the Heroic Taverne and each of them, regardless of current training level, is worth 150 Valor tokens it seemed a likely path.
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Also noted above they have changed the Spartan (at least for now) to a 0 Star level 1 Boudica that is as worthless as you can get in terms of allies. At a starting point of 3 Stars those Spartans have a pretty powerful Red fight boost, are relatively cheap to train, and evolve powerfully in their own right. If they are not going to be in the rotation any more I'm not so sure I want to get rid of them....
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Sharmon the Impaler
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My red is very heatlhy , I need 2K more blue though.
Sharmon the Impaler
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I got my first Legendary but the rewards for the whole tavern done was 5 stinking valor tokens. How are we supposed to evolve the new ones? Thats 52 weeks in a year X 5 is 260 tokens. This better not be just more of your pay your way through the mess we made with cash. 
xivarmy
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The only tangible path atm is to win extra allies in events (especially if you can get higher rarity ones directly - but they seem to be moving away from that) and shred them. It's expensive and highly questionable if it's worthwhile, but it's an option. 30 common dorks shredded = enough valor to raise 1 common to legendary. I believe people mentioned that the 3000 diamond "presents" in next event could be a good route for it. Can get as many as 8 common allies per 3000 diamonds (plus reroll costs). So maybe like 15-20k diamonds to get enough junk dorks to get the valor tokens to make a common into a legendary (and you still need a mess of scrolls too). Doesn't really seem worth it to me, but it's an option.
Sharmon the Impaler
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They only give level ones now in the heroes challenge. Those are only 50 Valors and take 4 weeks to complete if you finish the challenge every week. The higher ones are in the events and much harder to get.
xivarmy
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Events are now moving towards mostly commons too it seems. Though getting easier to complete.
In the King Arthur event on beta:
- There's 3 full ones for relatively cheap in the event shop (2 common, 1 uncommon).
- There's full ones in the elf presents (common) (well merlin's grimoires but it's like the elf thing from christmas).
So from this it seems likely that you'll usually be starting from common from now on, but we might be done with fragments of them outside of the taverne (fingers crossed!)
And you'll probably need to be more selective over which ones you want to level to 100 and increase the rarity of ; and which ones you're just picking up to be destroyed as valor tokens.
With that in mind,
1 Lv 100 Common takes 1 Common
1 Lv 100 Uncommon takes 5 Commons (+4)
1 Lv 100 Rare takes 11 Commons (+6)
1 Lv 100 Epic takes 19 Commons (+8)
1 Lv 100 Legendary takes 31 Commons (+12)
So it seems the choice, eventually, becomes between having, say, 100 commons, 20 uncommons, 9 rares, 5 epics, or 3 legendaries.
With the 100 commons limited primarily by scrolls and rooms (levelling 30 extra common dorks to 100 costs many more scrolls than turning 1 lv 100 dork legendary).
While on the legendary end you're limited by needing to acquire a whole lot of trash dorks just to fill 1 room.
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The trap to avoid for now is levelling a whole bunch of common dorks a little bit of the way. Because if you decide to shred them later you lose all the scrolls you invested into levelling them.
So either you want to take a dork to 100 and maybe some day increase its rarity. Or you should leave it at level 1 and it can fill a room with not much effect until you need it for its valor tokens (4-12 lv 1 commons being worth less, even if you have the rooms, than adding another stat on a lv 100; the 12 for legendary is getting close though
). It seems likely to me that you'll wind up with a bunch of uncommons (or commons that you intend to take to uncommon) primarily ; with maybe the very best ones going to rare or epic. Legendary being an exceptional expense that you must really value the ability it provides.
Just An Observer
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I will wait for Keen Eye to come out. Being a Future era player who stays put, that would be a nice ability to have around. Otherwise, the plan is to find the Red or Blue bonuses I like and raise the Ally to Level 100 if I like it.
WillyTwoShoes
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Unless your Herioc Taverne is different than mine and just to clarify. With due diligence I used to get a (3 Star) lvl 1 Spartan. With the "new and exciting" update that took over a year for the developers to finish, I now get (anyone care to guess if there will be a rotation here?) a (ZERO Star) lvl 1 Boudica.
As there seems to be some interchangeable use of "Level / Stars" among players the clarification I wish to point out is number of Stars our stock Taverne Allies now have. It's anyone's guess on if there is going to be some sort of rotation in there which would make accumulating even a ZERO Star ally for evolution fodder a distant challenge.
I'm sure there will be some sort of enticement in the upcoming events to encourage players to pony up some cash to complete their ally's evolutionary trek.
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Sharmon the Impaler
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Their greed is off the charts.
Johnny B. Goode
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If you're talking about the Heroic Endeavors, I only see that you can get 100 fragments of Boudica per week, which would take 10 weeks due to it taking 1000 fragments to "assemble" her. There are 100 tasks and you only get fragments every 5th task, except for the first set of 5, for which you get a whopping 5 Valor Tokens. The second set of 5 gives you 10 fragments, the other 18 give you 5 each, for a total of 100 fragments. That's 10 weeks to get to 1000, right? Do you get more fragments in higher ages?
WillyTwoShoes
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Assuming that Boudica stays in the Heroic Taverne for 10 weeks. It could take a heck of a lot longer if the Taverne selection rotates with each reset.
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jaymoney23456
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Seems that the price you get for disbanding an ally is too low and the price to level up an ally is too high for this to be worth doing. Also, replacing what you can win in the heroic tavern by giving frags for a one star ally instead of a 3 star one is a step backwards.
Sharmon the Impaler
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No , only 5 Valor all the way up to SASH , this is a future cash grab.