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GBG cheating is not even being hidden anymore

Dominator - X

Well-Known Member
Our record speed for a 310 fight sector on opening day with 67 on it was 11 seconds.. That is each player winning 4 fights in the 11 seconds on average or 1 fight every 2.75 seconds. This is using bots according to you ?
Me? No, not at all. The guy above me, maybe, but definitely not me.
 

jaymoney23456

Well-Known Member
We are the number 1 guild in Q (just dethroned #1) and we had 43 answer a discord callout at 2:20 am. 64 at the bell and our best fighter has a max att of 385. Enough with the bot garbage.
Your guild having high participation has little to do with whether there is bot use. Your guild may well not use bots but that sure doesn't mean others don't. Evidence for bot use is overwhelming even if its not possible to 100% prove this or that specific player is doing it (only Inno could really do this).
 

jaymoney23456

Well-Known Member
Haven't noticed anything odd that leads me to believe other players are using bots. Generally, the top player on the SASH is only a couple of spots ahead of me, I usually do between 8000-9000 fights/season.
The ability to do a certain number of fights in a GbG season has nothing to do with whether that player is using bots or not. Anyone with the time to do so can hit their max attrition each day provided there are enough sectors to attack for the player to reach their attrition cap. Also, bot use doesn't allow the player to fight to higher attrition than would otherwise be the case. The bots allow the player to do maybe up to 10 fights a second or some insane number that is not otherwise possible even when using a desktop mouse and with now being able to simply keep clicking in the same place on the screen for each fight.
 

85gt

Active Member
I love how some you like to play down about the programs for cheating, those are the ones using the bot, it fights very fast and it slows the sever down. I have done all the keyboard tricks and even came up with one at the start of GVG`s big wars and I can tell you its just not near as fast as the several different cheats out there. First cheat was from Russia the another came from Spain or Portugal, cant remember now and Im sure there may have been at least 1 from the States
 

Sharmon the Impaler

Well-Known Member
I love how some you like to play down about the programs for cheating, those are the ones using the bot, it fights very fast and it slows the sever down. I have done all the keyboard tricks and even came up with one at the start of GVG`s big wars and I can tell you its just not near as fast as the several different cheats out there. First cheat was from Russia the another came from Spain or Portugal, cant remember now and Im sure there may have been at least 1 from the States
"First cheat was from Russia the another came from Spain or Portugal, cant remember now and Im sure there may have been at least 1 from the States" You say that several are much faster and this vague line is your best arguement ? You haven't tried them because you can't even name them.
 

WillyTwoShoes

Well-Known Member
Our record speed for a 310 fight sector on opening day with 67 on it was 11 seconds.. That is each player winning 4 fights in the 11 seconds on average or 1 fight every 2.75 seconds. This is using bots according to you ?

At opening are there any neutral sectors on any map that take 310 fights?
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Glockgemini

Active Member
This some bs man the amount of lag cheaters in this game, worse than it was at end of gvg. we get to x1 50 hits before they do, then the second they start hitting our sector ever single one of our 40 members gets insane lag while they just speed past us. doesn't matter when we were hitting a sector, if they weren't on it, no lag, if they were on it, awfull lag. this needs to stop and inno needs to stop protecting the cheaters like they did during gvg just because the cheaters give them money
I heard inno put in a click speed checker and increases attrition faster as the speed goes up. I tested it with a auto clicker app. My normal limit is about 900 attacks at 20% to hit 180 attrition. Using the auto clicker at 500ms gets me about the same. 400ms stops me at 850 combats. 300ms stops me at 775 combats. 250ms stops me at 750 combats. So going a little faster will cost you combats and the associated bonuses.
 

Sharmon the Impaler

Well-Known Member
I heard inno put in a click speed checker and increases attrition faster as the speed goes up. I tested it with a auto clicker app. My normal limit is about 900 attacks at 20% to hit 180 attrition. Using the auto clicker at 500ms gets me about the same. 400ms stops me at 850 combats. 300ms stops me at 775 combats. 250ms stops me at 750 combats. So going a little faster will cost you combats and the associated bonuses.
Is this you reporting yourself to Inno for using a bot ?
 

Mor-Rioghain

Well-Known Member
Well if only one or 2 guilds showing up in force causes lag, which seems quite likely, that means inno really has a problem and it should have been fixed BEFORE all these other recent changes to the game.
I think you misunderstand what a "server" is. Surely you don't think that the map your guild is on each season constitutes a server, do you? Your server is your Game World! So, yes, when 100's of guilds -- thousands of people -- show up to play, it's no different than rush hour traffic. If you want to get from point A to point B, you gotta tough it out.
 

Drakor-oe

New Member
I heard inno put in a click speed checker and increases attrition faster as the speed goes up. I tested it with a auto clicker app. My normal limit is about 900 attacks at 20% to hit 180 attrition. Using the auto clicker at 500ms gets me about the same. 400ms stops me at 850 combats. 300ms stops me at 775 combats. 250ms stops me at 750 combats. So going a little faster will cost you combats and the associated bonuses.
Lord Glock, I for one appreciate the honesty that u bring to this conversation, but I also hope using ur BOT is not a regular thing in FOE. To all the players that ferociously claim there is no proof that BOTs r even used... Y'all just got PWN'd. I welcome any and all methods for INNO to root out the rot of BOTs and ALTs in FOE; make a list of ur opponents available after a battle in GBG; Post the player with the most and/or fastest battles. Human click speed is easy enough to figure out. Auto BOT speed should be as well.
 

Drakor-oe

New Member
Our record speed for a 310 fight sector on opening day with 67 on it was 11 seconds.. That is each player winning 4 fights in the 11 seconds on average or 1 fight every 2.75 seconds. This is using bots according to you ?
Lord Sharmon, I must admit that I am a little skeptical about ur numbers. Ur telling us that 67 members of ur guild, averaged 1 fight every 2.75 secs. Its pretty impressive, but just an average of course... So for those players that fought 2-wave battles (more clicks) or experienced lags or simply stumbled, u would need players that could get 3,4,5 fights every 2.75 secs? Now we're getting into the realm of milliseconds per fight.... How many players with BOTs could bring down the average of the entire guild? At the moment, I have no evidence, but remember absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just saying
 

Sharmon the Impaler

Well-Known Member
Lord Sharmon, I must admit that I am a little skeptical about ur numbers. Ur telling us that 67 members of ur guild, averaged 1 fight every 2.75 secs. Its pretty impressive, but just an average of course... So for those players that fought 2-wave battles (more clicks) or experienced lags or simply stumbled, u would need players that could get 3,4,5 fights every 2.75 secs? Now we're getting into the realm of milliseconds per fight.... How many players with BOTs could bring down the average of the entire guild? At the moment, I have no evidence, but remember absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just saying
With a replace troops button and you still can't get 1 fight per second ? That was Inno's whole idea behind the replace troops button. Move the skilled fighter's speed closer to a bot users speed and then move on. FoE Helper was banned for a while and now it is tolerated because it had become the tool of choice for many players and banning it would lose a lot of these players. Cheaters are getting the same , make cheating less of an advantage until it becomes a non problem.
 

Glockgemini

Active Member
Is this you reporting yourself to Inno for using a bot ?
Not sure if that was stupid or just snide. That was me reporting if the attrition gains as speed increases, as rumors reported. Without testing, one cannot claim that using bots to speed up GBG combats has a cost. I proved it does. Do you need that broken down into easier to understand words?
 
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