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GBG is owned again by a few guilds

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just like the guild continent map...GBG is owned by a few guilds and the rest of guilds get to watch them flip the board every 4 hrs with a chance to play...
i guess one day in a few years INNO will get their guild matching straightened out. were 7 memeber guilds are not placed with the 80 plus member guilds ...
completely not worth wasting time with GBG anymore
 
I do not believe INNO will ever "fix" GBG. As it stands it is making them a ton of cash. They are a business. And their main concern is profit . So why should they change it? If they come up with something they see will bring in more cash. They will then announce "We know GBG is a popular part of the game, but that it has flaws which cannot be fixed. Therefore our development team have been working on a new and exciting replacement for it which we will start testing in the coming months. Or words to that effect.
 
The Lady Redneck said:
I do not believe INNO will ever "fix" GBG. As it stands it is making them a ton of cash. They are a business. And their main concern is profit . So why should they change it? If they come up with something they see will bring in more cash. They will then announce "We know GBG is a popular part of the game, but that it has flaws which cannot be fixed. Therefore our development team have been working on a new and exciting replacement for it which we will start testing in the coming months. Or words to that effect.
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Why do you think that INNO should do more than it already has to fix a "problem" that is caused by the players themselves? This debate has been going on for years. Some players choose to join "laid back", "low key", guilds that have low expectations of their members. If these players really want to compete in GBG all that they need to do is join higher ranked guilds. Almost all are actively recruiting. Instead, these players seem to expect INNO to lower the bar so that they can compete in GBG. Sure, I hope that INNO changes the formula for moving up in guild level. I think that it should be much more difficult to get into Diamond. But, I have selfish reasons for my opinion. As a player in a top guild I don't want weak guilds in Diamond any more than they want to be there. But, if INNO were to make the promotion from Platinum to Diamond more difficult this would merely push the "problem" down into Platinum where the strong guilds will still dominate the weaker ones.
 
Pericles the Lion said:
Why do you think that INNO should do more than it already has to fix a "problem" that is caused by the players themselves? This debate has been going on for years. Some players choose to join "laid back", "low key", guilds that have low expectations of their members. If these players really want to compete in GBG all that they need to do is join higher ranked guilds.
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Clearly they don't want the pressure of being in a "top" guild for one reason or another, which overrides their desire for GBG success. It could be the specific top guilds on their world - it's not like there's a lot of options on any given world. Or just that they want to show up when they have time, which is not necessarily enough to meet the expectations of a top guild (or at least they feel it's not); and even if they were in a top guild there might be nothing to do when they show up as top guilds are routinely subject to internal competition to get fights.

It's likely that inno would want to do more about the situation in GBG themselves, if they felt it could indeed be fixed. But shrinking the number of diamond guilds would likely aggravate things further as it's not like there's great parity at the top, and the happiness of the #4 guild is likely to some extent connected to not always seeing #1-3.

Their latest change actually went in the opposite direction where there's now more 1000 guilds and some extra minimally active guilds are in fact able to stay in 1000, for better or worse. The "super" rounds do have excellent matchmaking though in my experience where the lower groups are very evenly competitive giving those low diamond guilds a chance for a fun and fair round.

If anything needs to be fixed atm about GBG, I'd say it's the gameplay itself where it essentially boils to down to mindlessly hammering hotkeys. But at least it's the most-optional feature in the game right now such that if that doesn't appeal, skipping it really doesn't feel too bad :p That's probably the best change to GBG even if it wasn't directly to it ;)
 
The biggest problem with gbg is its p2w at the top and it's boring. I've been in top guilds and turned down being in the#1 guild fir reasons of my own. But I've been in guilds that came close to beating a top guild till they pulled out their wallets. Since it's p2w its meaningless. What satisfaction is there in winning because you spent more diamonds. None for me. The system is so broke that some guilds make sure they don't take atop spot cause they'll get worse match ups. The only goal now is to get a level 1 tower as only 1 or 2 guilds at most can get a level 2. So they killed the motivation to compete. No way most guilds can afford to beat the top 2 guilds in my world so that reduces gbg to farming and that is not fun.
 
honey55 said:
The biggest problem with gbg is its p2w at the top and it's boring. I've been in top guilds and turned down being in the#1 guild fir reasons of my own. But I've been in guilds that came close to beating a top guild till they pulled out their wallets. Since it's p2w its meaningless. What satisfaction is there in winning because you spent more diamonds. None for me. The system is so broke that some guilds make sure they don't take atop spot cause they'll get worse match ups. The only goal now is to get a level 1 tower as only 1 or 2 guilds at most can get a level 2. So they killed the motivation to compete. No way most guilds can afford to beat the top 2 guilds in my world so that reduces gbg to farming and that is not fun.
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You see why it's not going to change right ? The #1 and the #2 guild spend about 60K diamonds each per season getting the level 2 towers. Why would Inno want to end this ?
 
xivarmy said:
If anything needs to be fixed atm about GBG, I'd say it's the gameplay itself where it essentially boils to down to mindlessly hammering hotkeys.
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They could also give guild captains the option to diamond rush locked zones to open them early for fights.
:)
 
WillyTwoShoes said:
They could also give guild captains the option to diamond rush locked zones to open them early for fights.
:)
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They could. However, that would just create more issues. Issues that you refuse to accept. Problems that would overshadow the issues we now experience.

Maybe work through those issues and then come back with a modified proposition. Maybe then we could take this seriously.
 
WillyTwoShoes said:
They could also give guild captains the option to diamond rush locked zones to open them early for fights.
:)
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This would only cause problems and solve nothing. The top guilds outspend the lower guilds by a wide margin now and that won't change. If this idea were implemented, a weaker guild could spend diamonds to unlock a sector and, presuming that only they have access to it, capture it. In exchange for the unlock diamonds they would get some number of hits and the rewards associated with them (which, knowing INNO, will be worth less than the diamonds charged to unlock the sector). However, the top guild would probably spend diamonds to immediately retake it because they want the VPs. Then what? The first guild takes it again? This would be stupid. The only winner would be INNO.
 
Pericles the Lion said:
Why do you think that INNO should do more than it already has to fix a "problem" that is caused by the players themselves? This debate has been going on for years. Some players choose to join "laid back", "low key", guilds that have low expectations of their members. If these players really want to compete in GBG all that they need to do is join higher ranked guilds. Almost all are actively recruiting. Instead, these players seem to expect INNO to lower the bar so that they can compete in GBG. Sure, I hope that INNO changes the formula for moving up in guild level. I think that it should be much more difficult to get into Diamond. But, I have selfish reasons for my opinion. As a player in a top guild I don't want weak guilds in Diamond any more than they want to be there. But, if INNO were to make the promotion from Platinum to Diamond more difficult this would merely push the "problem" down into Platinum where the strong guilds will still dominate the weaker one
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I never said I thought INNO should do more to fix the problems in GBG. OK they were told when it was still being tested on Beta that it would cause problems. But the potential for profit meant they went with it anyway. And from a business point of view they were right. I agree with what you say. Those problems are there because players saw a way to manipulate GBG to their own ends.

I was simply meaning that as a business INNO is making a profit out of how things are, so why should they want to change it? If some customers do not like it, it is up to them to work round it. But I do believe that if INNO comes up with something that would make even more profit, they will not hesitate to use the flaws in GBG as an excuse to dump it in favor of the new. Then we (the customers) would soon work out how to manipulate that to our favor and/or wail about how flawed it is.
 
Ebeondi Asi said:

Feature - GBG Update 2025: Scaling Adjustments

To reduce the time investment in Guild Battlegrounds, we will apply some changes starting with the next Battleground Round on April 17 already! The changes are designed to reduce the time you need to spend fighting and negotiating without reducing rewards. The required progress on provinces...
forum.beta.forgeofempires.com forum.beta.forgeofempires.com
All new Beta 'adjustments' to squabble about now
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50% of the fights, same amount of rewards as before. What's not to like?
 
honey55 said:
The biggest problem with gbg is its p2w at the top and it's boring. I've been in top guilds and turned down being in the#1 guild fir reasons of my own. But I've been in guilds that came close to beating a top guild till they pulled out their wallets. Since it's p2w its meaningless. What satisfaction is there in winning because you spent more diamonds. None for me. The system is so broke that some guilds make sure they don't take atop spot cause they'll get worse match ups. The only goal now is to get a level 1 tower as only 1 or 2 guilds at most can get a level 2. So they killed the motivation to compete. No way most guilds can afford to beat the top 2 guilds in my world so that reduces gbg to farming and that is not fun.
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Yes, its pretty pathetic that anyone would think they are actually accomplishing something by simply paying the most $$$ to win a game. Totally the opposite of what a game should be.
 
Pericles the Lion said:
Being in "an extremely mellow laid back guild" is not a recipe for success in GBG regardless of the number of members.

SKIN WALKER RANCH LOOKING FOR ACTIVE FIGHTERS

We are an extremley mellow laid back guild. always open all 5 GE levels active in QI and GBG. PLEASE SEND ME A MESSAGE ( general info ) and ill send you an invite
forum.us.forgeofempires.com forum.us.forgeofempires.com
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"an extremely mellow laid back guild" means there's ZERO drama.. not that we do not have requirements for GBG QI and GE
 
general info said:
"an extremely mellow laid back guild" means there's ZERO drama.. not that we do not have requirements for GBG QI and GE
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You do realize that one does not preclude the other, correct? You can have a full guild with no drama, just as you can have a 7 person guild with loads of drama. In fact, most of the small guilds I’ve seen tend to collapse for that very reason due to a clear lack of experience, leadership and goals, which leads to, you guessed it… drama!
 
Inno has destroyed the social aspect of the game, the ability to recruit and the fairness, by allowing bullies to play stupid games. Fix it fools.
 
general info said:
just like the guild continent map...GBG is owned by a few guilds and the rest of guilds get to watch them flip the board every 4 hrs with a chance to play...
i guess one day in a few years INNO will get their guild matching straightened out. were 7 memeber guilds are not placed with the 80 plus member guilds ...
completely not worth wasting time with GBG anymore
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Your post is over a year old. Have they done anything? Nope
 
Not to worry..... Heard that the INNOvators have a solid plan to fix GBG....
Right after they finish "updating" the GB's, Bring back GvG and release the new age.....
Sit back and relax.... They have your happiness and your $$$ top of mind....
 
jaymoney23456 said:
All that would do is make it even more of a situation where the guild willing/able to spend dimes has the advantage and it won't fix any of the GBG issues.
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I disagree. I think it gives every guild and every player, options. I also happen to believe it would create a situation where dynamic new strategies could develop.
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