Well, I just had a bad time in one of my progressive age cities. My Aachan was only a level 6 though the zeus and CDM are 10s. I got it up to a level 7 just to see if it would help, but it didn't. I was doing level 3, but was not doing well, and would have quit but I saw there was a relic in a coming area, I did 3 of the battles in section 2 trying to get to that section, but simply could not win teh 8th battle, though I used up all my tries trying. I do not have the know how to negotiate as I never do it. So trying to jump in on level 3, just is not likely to be successful for me and I am not spending diamonds to take a chance that the gold relic will be something worth the diamonds. So for the future, what should I use to go against this: 1st wave: 2tanks, 2 rapid fire cannons, 2 armor cars, 1 script and 1 rogue. 2nd wave: 2 scripts, 2 howitzers, 1 lancer, 2 cannons, 1 armor car. By next week, I should have my aachan up another level or 2. My problem is, I need to use snipers to take out the scripts it seems, yet, the snipers do next to nothing against anything else. The tanks don't seem to do very good either against tanks. Actually everything takes too many hits. I guess I really need higher bonuses. Maybe I won't even start level 3 next time. If it simply means I am taking a chance of losing a chance to get a gold relic, I am not sure it is smart to start a level one can't finish. After all, if it is percentages, I used up one getting one I actually can't get. I wonder if anyone has any statistics on this. If it is smarter to not start a level one can't open up the entire level of. Perhaps if I hadn't started it, I may have gotten the gold relic next week on level 1.