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Guild Expedition- New Rewards

DeletedUser27889

We decided to open it again this week and somehow it managed to actually be worse.

I've heard of others on here talking about getting the FP and goods relics still but no one in my guild has. Why wont they release this drop table????
The only relics I received were these (now even more so) useless decos. Why have a tor to just get the same prizes from the trail?

This weeks final encounter was store building/fountain of youth. Had I known it wasnt the skywatch again I don't know if I would have bothered.

I negotiate 4 so I actually like the attempts there. This way I can keep going with the same tavern boost.

I know GE is for the benefit of the guild but with level 4 being a bonus it shouldn't be costing people so much for so little reward. If it was just level 4 it would be one thing, we just wouldnt play but now the entirety of GE and ToR has been screwed up.Theres only so altruistic one can be and giving up hundreds of goods or weeks worth of traz troops for seemingly nothing just doesn't work. In any guild you go through times of having to wrangle people to do GE to begin with, taking the rewards away (or minimizing them into obscurity) doesn't aid that effort.

I feel very badly for those who leveled their ToR highly. They might not realize it yet but ToR has been nerfed and apparently it's so bad inno won't even tell us.
 

DeletedUser25196

ITown said:
So the store building is actually part of the jade relic? Wow.
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I wish I had of taken a pic for proof, but unfortunately I didn't and yes it is in the Jade Relic prize pool.

Are we sure this isn't an early April Fools Day joke on us all? I mean maybe they go the date wrong?
 

DeletedUser26660

Surely getting to the end of level 4 is an achievement that INNO should recognise as they have described it as a challenge and difficult themselves!

So how about they make the final reward for completing battle 64 a SoK, at least that would be a reasonable return for one's efforts and would also keep up the interest in doing level 4 and GE as a whole....come on INNO...make it worth our while and don''t be stingy. Athletes in the Olympics aspire to win the ultimate prize and get a Gold medal, I am not so sure they would go to all that effort if there was just a bag of sweeties waiting for them on the podium.
 
Algona

Algona

Well-Known Member
sir lanceaboil said:
So how about they make the final reward for completing battle 64 a SoK,
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13 guildies made it through 64 last week. 8 so far this week with 4 over 60,

I agree that the the final prize should be great. Especially given how awful some of the other lvl 4 prizes are.

Maybe an SoK is a little too much?
 
Praetorius

Praetorius

Well-Known Member
Cleared Level 3 and 4 for the first time.

How about an achievement for that Inno?

Won 100 diamonds a victory tower, a bunch of goods and a Reno-kit (alternative was a terrace farm) for the grand prize.
 

DeletedUser23828

Seriously guys??? your new 2x2 decorations SUCK!!!! I have to go back 2 eras before they are better than the decorations offered for diamonds. Really TWO ages???? you got to be kidding trying to sell this as an improvement, just who are you all discussing this stuff with before you put it out?? The replacement for the SOK is a joke too!!! same output as SOK but takes up 33% more space!!!!! Who thought the player community would like that "IMPROVEMENT"!!??!!?!?
 

DeletedUser27889

sir lanceaboil said:
I must have missed something, what is the replacement for a SoK?
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Sacred sky watch 2x3
http://forgeofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Sacred_Sky_Watch
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DeletedUser8420

ITown said:
Dear Inno,
Did you know there's already a button that is more useful than the store button?

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And this one isn't buried inside a relic either. If you're going to put store building and 1-up kits in the jade relic, please just remove them from the game entirely instead.
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Actually the store building was in response to all the requests to be able to return buildings to inventory. I have used it many times in redesigning my city. I don't think it is a great prize for GE but do appreciate that they listen to the players and created something that was asked for many times over and is at times (for those of us with large cities) useful.
 

DeletedUser20367

Cassaundrea said:
Actually the store building was in response to all the requests to be able to return buildings to inventory. I have used it many times in redesigning my city. I don't think it is a great prize for GE but do appreciate that they listen to the players and created something that was asked for many times over and is at times (for those of us with large cities) useful.
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Very true. 1 Up Kits are also useful, although not as good as Reno Kits obviously. :D

Just used a 1 Up that I won in GE to move a HoF from CA to Ind. Wouldn't have spent a Reno Kit on that.
 

DeletedUser27718

Forge Points: I preferred receiving FP packages so I don't have to rush out of GE to 'spend' them, especially with minutes left in my extra turn. It would be nice if you could 'bank' FPs into FP packages so you can have a chance to decide how to distribute them. Ideally, it would be nice if the FP storage bar was larger than 10...25 (1 beyond 1 day's worth) would be perfect. Oh, and the paltry 2 FP reward in GE Lvl 4 is a joke, and the extra attempts are virtual "no reward", so should instead be a bonus on top of another reward. If you want to put a limit on how many FP packages you can have, that would be fine (like 10 or 99). Finally, when you are contributing to GBs you can't buy FPs with coins, forcing you to leave the GB, back out of chat, buy the 1 or 2 FPs with coins, then find the chat, player, and GB again to add that last 1 or 2 FPs to the GB (FP swap).
Medals: I stop at the 1st major encounter in GE level 4, because of the ridiculous exorbitant medal requirement that could potentially cost over 1670 medals per each major encounter (x4). When you consider that a Victory Tower (Ce) (ironically also a reward during GE Lvl 4) generates less than a paltry 15 medals/day, it would take over 111 days (=16 weeks or 4 months) to earn enough medals for just one encounter. That's equal to 7 - 4x4 blocks in your city FILLED with Victory Towers to earn enough in 1 day to cover just one encounter in GE Lvl 4!?! The medal requirement needs to be eliminated, or drastically cut to goods levels, example 3, 4, 5 instead of 335 and up... Note: I normally FINISH GE every time, until Lvl. 4 was introduced (I did finish it the 1st time).
Lvl 4 Rewards: the new Ritual Flame needs to be increased at least 1% defense to at least 9%, since they are worse than a Watchfire due to their lesser placement flexibility. It would be nice if the new Motivation Kits motivated goods buildings. Extra Attempts are not a 'proper' reward since you already earn 1/hour and can buy them for medals...I'd rather have the medals instead. The 2 Forge Point reward at the beginning of Lvl 4 is a joke, all-in-all, the rewards are nowhere near worth the cost of goods and medals by any comparison and needs to be seriously reconsidered.
 

DeletedUser27889

jchand said:
Medals: I stop at the 1st major encounter in GE level 4, because of the ridiculous exorbitant medal requirement that could potentially cost over 1670 medals per each major encounter (x4). When you consider that a Victory Tower (Ce) (ironically also a reward during GE Lvl 4) generates less than a paltry 15 medals/day, it would take over 111 days (=16 weeks or 4 months) to earn enough medals for just one encounter. That's equal to 7 - 4x4 blocks in your city FILLED with Victory Towers to earn enough in 1 day to cover just one encounter in GE Lvl 4!?! The medal requirement needs to be eliminated, or drastically cut to goods levels, example 3, 4, 5 instead of 335 and up... Note: I normally FINISH GE every time, until Lvl. 4 was introduced (I did finish it the 1st time).
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I have to say while I am not a fan of this new GE I have either earned more medals back or broke even medal wise in level 4. I'm not up to 4 yet but this week I plan on taking it slow enough to chart full cost and rewards.

I agree with your other points.
 
ITown

ITown

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Cassaundrea said:
Actually the store building was in response to all the requests to be able to return buildings to inventory. I have used it many times in redesigning my city. I don't think it is a great prize for GE but do appreciate that they listen to the players and created something that was asked for many times over and is at times (for those of us with large cities) useful.
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I'm not saying they're useless. I'm just saying that they're useful in so few situations that I'll be happy to see them removed from the game if it means that the jade relic stops containing garbage like that as a possible reward.
 

DeletedUser27889

I negotiated level 4 again but this week I took it slower so I could record my results and I have to say for as bad as I thought it was I am now ASTOUNDED by how bad it is. Please note I play in LMA so you could expect your medal cost to be higher but your medal payouts higher as well so this should relatively reflect other eras as well with the exception of AF as I know nothing of this promethium you all speak of.

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The only rewards that are of any use to me are the FPs and the medals. The fps are a decent amount but no where near relative to the cost. The medals for me is about what I get in a day or two of GB contributions kicking in. Almost 1,000 goods with 6 goods buildings running @ 8hr productions is 133 hours worth of goods or 5.5 days not including GBs or any time waiting on trades. This is JUST for level 4. Also I do not have to refine my goods, I have it lucky.

For me it has been either 5 or 6 weeks of not getting FPs in relics anymore. Nor has anyone in my guild or any friend I have spoken to in game. I have only heard about it on here. I have loads of these completely useless decos I will never use. Decos and BPs were the number 1 complaint and instead of listening they actually made the decos worse and now give you them twice as often.

I am 100% all for a super hard, super good hungry level you need to seriously prep to compete in but the rewards need to match and exceed the cost. Why do it otherwise? All this is not to mention the cost to the guild to open it in the first place when it barely helps the guild at all. Insanity. This is like if in a war the country that 'won' depleted all it's resources and troops and gained nothing. It's not winning if you spend A THOUSAND GOODS for nothing. Not a single GB is even close to 1,000 goods. If you went to the casino with $1,000 and left with a souvenir glass that said I went to the casino you did not win at the casino.

One of the most angering parts of this is unlike the CVs or the railguns they won't admit that ToR is now a nerfed building and it makes me quite angry. ToR is useless because the devs want to make ugly buildings no one wants. Nobody built or leveled their ToR to get this junk no one wants it and they act like they're doing us a favor with this crap.

GE was really great. It's what made me change from 'Oh what's that game I downloaded on my phone? I should check that." To playing daily, finding a good guild, spending time and money on this game. ToR was the icing on the cake that for me turned the game into 'Yeah I'll put dinner on in a sec, there's a gold up ahead!' I'm not saying I'm going to stop playing but my interest is diminishing. I have guild obligations and will continue to do level 3, but now the game is beginning to feel like a chore because with this and the really greedy carnival event there's really not much to be excited about. Sure you can skip the events when they're crappy, or GE now that it's crappy... but then why play?

I'm going to repost this in the other thread as well since the two subjects overlap and I'm not really quite sure why we have two topics for the same issue.
 

DeletedUser28628

9to5Princess said:
Is there any reason that i'm not winning any relic in the first difficulty of GE in the last weeks? In the second level I usually get relics several times.
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I would feel good about winning anything in level I. I very rarely win anything in either level I or II, even with my ToR built. I joke with my guildies that I think my Tor is broken, that or I haven't figured out where the 'on' switch is. 12% chance of a relic per encounter my butt!!
 

Leroni

New Member
We continue to get attempts as "prizes" even well into level III. You're killin' me! And your s-called "new" prizes STINK! They are just a re-name of things we've gotten in the past. Level 4 prizes are lame too.....I thought because it's so much harder, that the prizes would be "well worth the risk", but we get attempts as "prizes" there as well. INNO....are you listening to us??? When we keep getting attempts as "prizes" it is giving us NOTHING for our efforts. Tap, Tap, Tap....is thing working? Can you hear me?
 
OldTyme72

OldTyme72

Member
Ok. This is the 2nd week this has happened so I'm a little bit triggered & out of crayons.

Level 4 GE- I would see a Jade relic all the way at the end but I was only on the first 8. Then I would come back say the next day & it was gone.

Has this happened to anyone else?
 

wolfhoundtoo

Well-Known Member
I had a jade relic this week that sat there for several days before I got to it so nope hasn't happened to me. Was the icon that indicated a relic lit up too?
 
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