Salsuero
Well-Known Member
That's certainly true of the Deal. I don't think it's easy to argue that for the SBC, though. It's only 5x5 and that's not really "huge" in my opinion when it gives you a 30% attack boost on defense at just level 10.
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That's certainly true of the Deal. I don't think it's easy to argue that for the SBC, though. It's only 5x5 and that's not really "huge" in my opinion when it gives you a 30% attack boost on defense at just level 10.
ODragon
Well-Known Member
5x5 = 25 = 12 RF+1WT = 100% def.
I guess you might be right on that one. If you consider DA 2x DD, then at 30% DA/DD, then it is effectively a 90% total vs 100% defense only.
DeletedUser30312
I'm in agreement with @Salsuero here; the Basil is small enough to be worth it for the added attack bonus if you're worried about defense. Combine it with the TA, get them both to level 10 and you've got a +50% attack bonus for your defense which isn't bad at all. That will stop weak attackers.
Deal though is huge, and it's only a priority if you're in a serious GvG guild. Otherwise, I say wait until the later eras to build it if you feel the need and if you have enough space.
DeletedUser37533
It blows my mind this conversation is still going on. If you are being attacked by some asshole with 300% attack with one unit and 7 rogues then make the attraction of the attack go away.
The mechanics of this game pretty much makes it impossible to defend your city regardless of your defenses. My defenders have 315% defense and they still get mowed over because they are trying to attack the rogues. My units will literally pass by battle units to attack rogues. The defense element of this game is the biggest joke going.
This game is set up to benefit the attacker at every single event. What does an attacker want? Medals for the most part or for some limp biscuits plundering. Remove the benefit for the attack. Post no defense whatsoever. I post one spearfighter so the losers get 108 battle points. Either collect on time, or if you have a life, disconnect your roads. Your attacker can collect nothing. They will go away.
I always follow up an attack with a nasty email telling the attacker what appendage I would prefer them to suck.
The mechanics of this game pretty much makes it impossible to defend your city regardless of your defenses. My defenders have 315% defense and they still get mowed over because they are trying to attack the rogues. My units will literally pass by battle units to attack rogues. The defense element of this game is the biggest joke going.
This game is set up to benefit the attacker at every single event. What does an attacker want? Medals for the most part or for some limp biscuits plundering. Remove the benefit for the attack. Post no defense whatsoever. I post one spearfighter so the losers get 108 battle points. Either collect on time, or if you have a life, disconnect your roads. Your attacker can collect nothing. They will go away.
I always follow up an attack with a nasty email telling the attacker what appendage I would prefer them to suck.
Emberguard
Well-Known Member
@Little Urban Achievers oh hey bud 
you haven’t been around here for a while
You know, a nasty email could get you banned if it were ever reported. Not a wise move to spite your opponent
you haven’t been around here for a whileYou know, a nasty email could get you banned if it were ever reported. Not a wise move to spite your opponent
DeletedUser29623
That explains why you get attacked so much. They love getting those messages and share them in the Plunder Progress thread. What’s the point of removing one attraction (your collections) if you’re just going to offer them another?
Salsuero
Well-Known Member
Well, it wasn't... until you necro'd it. Nice job, sport.
Well, before the latest hood change, I was attacked almost daily by an admitted cheater that Inno refused to remove from the game with over 1,000% defense in LMA. He defended his city pretty well in my opinion since I didn't make a dent, even using a Colonial Era unit. Maybe you should try 1,000%. LOL My "solution" was to laugh and not care, which was always my solution to such things. One time, though, I set my town up for a single Spearfighter on defense and allowed him to plunder my Rosarium for 7 medals. I thought it would be funny. It was. He still came back to attack me again. Meh. It was funny once. But I really couldn't care less. He took a few FPs off my town during those two weeks. I have over 40k in inventory... I survived. What I didn't do was send nasty messages whining about it. That just seems rather petty and snowflakey, doesn't it? Ahhh, well... to each his/her own, I suppose. Happy Forging!
DeletedUser31499
I’m not a punk bully.... yes I’ve been called that and worse. I only plundered you because one of your spearmen scratched the paint on my tank.
DeletedUser15539
If someone attacks you just for Tower points, and doesn't plunder, how does this hurt you?
If someone does plunder you, then collect on time.
Come on guys, this isn't rocket science.
If someone does plunder you, then collect on time.
Come on guys, this isn't rocket science.
Agent327
Well-Known Member
It actually is a bit. The longer you are online in the game, the more your timer runs off. So while you are waiting for those last minute to run down to collect your TF, it might have already been plundered.
Salsuero
Well-Known Member
Unless you're at the bottom of the hood and easy pickings, the chances of being defeated by that many players who know exactly when to hit you... every single time they attack (because you don't change up your patterns)... is probably pretty low. I'm no rocket scientist, but it doesn't take one to know you can collect relatively close to on time and mitigate almost all plundering.
Agent327
Well-Known Member
Almost all, but not all like people seem to think. Even if you are not easy pickings, die hard plunderers return several times a day and might get lucky. Collecting in time is no fail safe method for that like many seem to think.
Salsuero
Well-Known Member
If getting plundered "once in a rare while" is problematic for you, your town needs work.
Yes. And if they're willing to work that hard at it, the ONE time they do get lucky should again -- not be enough to cause chaos and anarchy for a successful town. Any successful emperor should consider it no more than a simple nuisance... and perhaps fuel for revenge -- possibly even war. It seems to me that this game is kinda built upon that premise.
I don't think anyone has every claimed that it's 100% perfectly preventative. However, the odds are very unlikely that you will be enduring nonstop game-ending plundering if you collect on time, especially compared to not doing so.
Agent327
Well-Known Member
Typical answer. You are clueless about my town or if I get plundered at all. Ever considered that you can state facts that do not have to be about yourself?
No problem if they get lucky, but it should be with equal chances. HJow many players do you think know their timer is off? Obviously you don't.
It's the "to go to" answer and advice when it comes to plundering, where in fact it is a fable.
DeletedUser37581
Is the collection timer still not working for you? It was fixed in the Flash version a loooonnnnnggggg time ago (like over a year ago).
Agent327
Well-Known Member
No it isn't. The longer you are logged in, the more it gets out of sync.
DeletedUser37581
Not on Flash it doesn't. I doubt I'm running a special version of the game either.
Agent327
Well-Known Member
Can you prove that?
DeletedUser37581
Absolutely, but what would you consider to be definitive proof?