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How do you define sniping?

How many fp dropped to a GB to lock your position mean you sniped it?

  • Sniper drops more fp than required by 1.9, but still make profit thanks to high level Arc they own

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sniper drops less fp than required by 1.9

    Votes: 16 84.2%
  • Sniper drops less fp than reward listed in the GB leveling window

    Votes: 3 15.8%

  • Total voters
    19

Sledgie

Active Member
I have found that players who get sniped some, get sniped more and more. Players who are always careful. rarely get sniped.
And if a player gets sniped once, they should be very careful for a few weeks. since that sniper will be watching, and they probably told their sniping buddies
So if a player get sniped within minutes of opening, Someone was watching for a good reason. LOL
Either that or I just got lucky when I scoped my hood right after the target posted their building with all 5 spots primed in their 1.9 thread ;)
 

Ebeondi Asi

Well-Known Member
Either that or I just got lucky when I scoped my hood right after the target posted their building with all 5 spots primed in their 1.9 thread ;)
Personally I consider player who do that to be really foolish. But plenty of players do it.
Not me. I do P1 P2 then get them fille and each P3 P4 P5 separately filling lock for each Px.
Yeah it takes a few minutes. To me, better safe than sorry.
 

Pericles the Lion

Well-Known Member
I have found that players who get sniped some, get sniped more and more. Players who are always careful. rarely get sniped.
And if a player gets sniped once, they should be very careful for a few weeks. since that sniper will be watching, and they probably told their sniping buddies
So if a player get sniped within minutes of opening, Someone was watching for a good reason. LOL
I agree. Across the 5 worlds that I play I have added a total of about 2000 levels to my GBs. In this time, I was sniped once, way back when I first started my first city and naively primed a level for all 5 positions. Learned my lesson and never made that mistake again.
 

The Lady Redneck

Well-Known Member
LOL Last hood in my Diamond farm city I had a sniper hit me. As the needs of it are different from my main world, Leveling my GBs is not all that critical. But I do keep them locked however, and only open the one I want to work on when I am ready to level it. So I flipped the one he sniped and did not level any more. He got annoyed at that I think, as he started attacking and plundering me I have a great FL there so everything that can be aided gets aided. but he did get a blacksmith a couple of times. And in return for all his attention I placed 1 FP on a load of his GBs. So can now take my time and either flip them or snipe them. If the chance comes up. So you see sniping is fun :)
 

Ebeondi Asi

Well-Known Member
Yes. If they want to put the correct amount or more, that is not sniping.
I disagree. "the correct amount"?? What if you can get 1.92 or 1.95 or even 2.0 for P1and P2 (even P3) the 1.9 is a snipe.
Plus anyone adding some lower value 1.9 when a higher Px is open causes an immediate chance of a higher snipe for another.
 

SirCrustyKraken

New Member
I disagree. "the correct amount"?? What if you can get 1.92 or 1.95 or even 2.0 for P1and P2 (even P3) the 1.9 is a snipe.
Plus anyone adding some lower value 1.9 when a higher Px is open causes an immediate chance of a higher snipe for another.
The correct amount is always the 'Correct Amount".
 

Ebeondi Asi

Well-Known Member
Yeah. The Correct response is knocking off the person who adds less than lock if possilbe . Regardless if it is the 1.9 amount. If I'm expecting 1.92 or more. i will 'arrange' to surprise that unwanted donor with getting knocked off the position they think they have a 'right to' "
 

Dursland

Well-Known Member
Back in the day, before they implemented the fp drop textbox - where you had to add fps at a time. Well I was on desktop loading up this high level alcatraz, something like 2.5k to lock. Doing my quests as I go along of course. Then I'm back on the GB loading next batch of fps when suddenly I see someone get to 500 and pause. I'm like oh damn, mobile player trying to snipe me.

I start clicking as fast as I can, probably faster than I've ever clicked in my life. My fp count is climbing like crazy by the tens, like a gas station pump. The mobile player gets to 1000 then 1500, then 2000. I'm just clicking like mad with him right on my heels. Finally the GB levels.

The dust settles and I look to see what happened. I had secured 1st place by less than 100fps! The guy lost over 1000fps trying to snipe me lol.
 

Emberguard

Well-Known Member
Back in the day, before they implemented the fp drop textbox - where you had to add fps at a time. Well I was on desktop loading up this high level alcatraz, something like 2.5k to lock. Doing my quests as I go along of course. Then I'm back on the GB loading next batch of fps when suddenly I see someone get to 500 and pause. I'm like oh damn, mobile player trying to snipe me.

I start clicking as fast as I can, probably faster than I've ever clicked in my life. My fp count is climbing like crazy by the tens, like a gas station pump. The mobile player gets to 1000 then 1500, then 2000. I'm just clicking like mad with him right on my heels. Finally the GB levels.

The dust settles and I look to see what happened. I had secured 1st place by less than 100fps! The guy lost over 1000fps trying to snipe me lol.
That way of contributing was definitely a lot more fun when you get someone trying to snipe. It’s nice being able to dump the exact amount, especially with the levels going as high as they do nowadays. But it was fun having those sniping races
 

Desert Dawg

New Member
So I had a found great write up on sniping but can’t seem to find it
Thought I saved it.
Writer explained many aspects that all make sense.
1st he started out with, it’s a made up word used to define an action used in this game.
Maybe I’ll find it in the forum
It seems to cover many aspects of where and how it’s used.
I’m hoping some one has it and can share it with us all
 

Podling

Active Member
Sniping is as vital to the health of FOE as shooting another player is vital to the health of a PVP war game. We can discuss it and define it over and over but all we are really doing is beating a dead horse.
*snort*
No it's not. I don't really have strong feelings one way or the other about sniping. Being an effective sniper is more of a time commitment than I'm interested in making and defending against snipers is easy enough when I actually care.
But your comparison is ludicrous.
Sniping is an accidental part of the game that wasn't even a thing until arcs were added and people started using 1.9 threads. It remains a minor part of the game for some, and a non existent part of the game for a very large number of players. It is not anywhere close to being the core mechanic of the game, the way shooting another player is the core part of a pvp war game is.
If the ability to snipe was curtailed (most likely by taking away the ability to put points on neighbor's buildings) the game would not suffer at all. It might even have a net positive benefit.
But there are a few players who get off on hurting other people that would quit. I don't think most of the rest of us would care if you left.
 

Johnny B. Goode

Well-Known Member
But your comparison is ludicrous.
Sniping is an accidental part of the game that wasn't even a thing until arcs were added and people started using 1.9 threads.
Sorry, but this part of your post is ludicrous. I was heavily into guild leadership in the days before the Arc and 1.9 threads, and I can assure you that sniping was very much a part of those days. Neighbors (and sometimes friends) of players in either guild or group swaps were frequently jumping in and sniping top reward positions. It actually happens less because of Arcs and 1.9 threads, because players with GBs worth sniping are usually very aware of sniping and actively working against it happening on their GBs.
(Oh, and you're also replying to a post from 2 years ago. LOL)
 

Mor-Rioghain

Well-Known Member
Oh, joy. The dead horse is back. OP: you forgot to put another option - the unsolicited fp one.

@Podling seems to have summed up my position on the issue rather well. IMPO, sniping is any contribution of unsolicited FPs and @Johnny B. Goode, you can snort all you want, but your opinion is just that, an opinion. The math doesn't lie.

My beef with snipers has everything to do with the math. Had the developers 'remathed' the gbs when they decided to allow them to be leveled after L10, there'd be no such thing as a 'snipe zone' and a lot of people would be happier and less frazzled and this conversation would probably have never started umpteen years ago.

Here's my math:
  • Diamonds = premium currency that is either earned or purchased.
  • GBs can be built w/premium currency provided the player has a minimum of one blueprint.
  • There is no way to determine by looking at a GB whether it was built by use of this method but the assumtion can be made that it might have been.
Sum: If I construct a GB, with or without the use of premium currency, it's mine. No ifs, ands, or buts. MINE. Therefore, I should have a direct say in whether or not someone is permitted to contribute, not some algorithym designed to favor Friends, Guildies, and Neighbors. I CHOOSE.
  • If said Friends, Guildies, and Neighbors need my prints, they can ask.
  • If I say, "No," too bad, so sad, suck it up, Cupcake.
  • I'm not here to make others' games more pleasurable, profitable, or pleasing. I'm here to make MY game that way.
Having said all of that, "I get it" and don't need umpteen people telling me the truth of the matter. How do I know the "math isn't mathing?" The launch of the 5 newest GBs. There ain't no sweet spot and that's all I needed to support the point I've been making all of these years. Thank you, Inno, for finally confirming this suspicion!

I don't like being told that the value of my spending dollar is in face, less than a dollar. That's what we're told when snipe zones exist. All of this malarkey we've all heard for years about being careless and prevent sniping by only presenting lockable positions is just that -- malarkey.

IMHO, stopping this nonsense would have been achieved by two things and they've already done one of them -- fixed the math. Now all that needs doing is affording the GB owner the right to 'refuse contributions' by player, not group, and the problem of sniping is ancient history. Those who do may cry, whine, and even rage quit but at least the GB owner will have a choice and choice is all I, for one, have ever wanted. Bring on the drop box, Inno. Been waiting to hear my dollar is worth a dollar for years!!

Oh, and for those of you who might be curious, the answer is "Yes. I've blown up GBs with sniper's fps on them. Plenty of times. I'd rather start over than give them a single print. I've machinated 1-fp up leveling parties to knock them from a reward spot if they were foolish enough not to lock themselves into position. I've paid FP bounties to the participants to truly make it worth their time and trouble to assist me. But, when all else fails, I break out the wrecking ball." If I brought a smile to your face or a laugh to your throat for admitting that, you're welcome. Happiness is hard to find these days and I'm glad to bring a bit your way. But I can assure you, no smile was bigger and no laugh louder, than the ones I've had watching their stupid forge points go up in smoke. None. It was pure bliss.

Why? Because that building was MINE.
 
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Ebeondi Asi

Well-Known Member
The definition of sniping is anything any player wants. Makes it much easier. No more arguing..
Whatever you think, is correct. Naturally this may cause a few arguments between players trying to communicate. I suggest give each other a break. Instead of trying to prove you are right and they are wrong.
 
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