How do you define sniping?

[Sharmon the Impaler]

If you have cereal for breakfast then you have sniped ! While everyone is just blurting stuff out that means nothing I thought I would have a go at it too.

 

[xivarmy]

If you have cereal for breakfast then you have sniped ! While everyone is just blurting stuff out that means nothing I thought I would have a go at it too.

I should go snipe me some more maple cinnamon frosted flakes then!

 

[PianoFil]

I rarely get sniped. But when I do, if the sniper is one that must have their double dips, I make sure they don't get their double dips for a week. I have gotten some really nasty PMs from snipers over this. But they quit sniping me. Of course the ones that don't care about double dips this does not work on.

 

[Baltar]

*snort*
No it's not. I don't really have strong feelings one way or the other about sniping. Being an effective sniper is more of a time commitment than I'm interested in making and defending against snipers is easy enough when I actually care.
But your comparison is ludicrous.
Sniping is an accidental part of the game that wasn't even a thing until arcs were added and people started using 1.9 threads. It remains a minor part of the game for some, and a non existent part of the game for a very large number of players. It is not anywhere close to being the core mechanic of the game, the way shooting another player is the core part of a pvp war game is.
If the ability to snipe was curtailed (most likely by taking away the ability to put points on neighbor's buildings) the game would not suffer at all. It might even have a net positive benefit.
But there are a few players who get off on hurting other people that would quit. I don't think most of the rest of us would care if you left.

You say you don't have strong feelings about sniping while posting strong feelings about sniping.

 

[Dominator - X]

If you have cereal for breakfast then you have sniped !

Only if the cereal you ate was taken from a sibling's bowl.

 

[The Lady Redneck]

Only if the cereal you ate was taken from a sibling's bowl.

My Hubby does not play this or any other game. But he is aScotsman and if anyone tried sniping his morning porridge, they would need time off from their guild to recover.

 

[Drkfackla]

My Favorite part. I collect the tears and feed them to my hairless feline named Neefli and she grants me a wish for every 10 sweet and salty Eye sweat collected. I think she works for SAM!!! Gs up for the G thing G thing G

 

[Pericles the Lion]

My Favorite part. I collect the tears and feed them to my hairless feline named Neefli and she grants me a wish for every 10 sweet and salty Eye sweat collected. I think she works for SAM!!! Gs up for the G thing G thing G

That visual is creepy.

 

[KeithOfTheForge]

I don't always snipe but, when I do, I only snipe neighbors.

I also don't care if people snipe / contribute / whatever on my GBs. Any FPs are welcome.

 

[Ebeondi Asi]

I boot Friends for placing FPs on my GBs.. Period. (Unless they asked first.)
Random FPs mess up 2.0 1.95 1.9 etc.
And I do my best to make sure the unwanted FPs do not win back anything.
(though not to the extreme of deleting the GB. LoL

 

[Johnny B. Goode]

I boot Friends for placing FPs on my GBs.. Period. (Unless they asked first.)
Random FPs mess up 2.0 1.95 1.9 etc.
And I do my best to make sure the unwanted FPs do not win back anything.
(though not to the extreme of deleting the GB. LoL

This is why I always put my excess FP on neighbors' GBs. Mostly the ones I want prints for, but sometimes I find another self leveler like myself and take the profit whether it's a GB I want or not.

 

[Ebeondi Asi]

I've never seen an "excess Forge Point"?
That i like saying: "I have too much money I should set some of it on fire..."

 

[Johnny B. Goode]

I've never seen an "excess Forge Point"?
That i like saying: "I have too much money I should set some of it on fire..."

When the GBs in your city are at max level and you don't have room or don't need/want to build the GBs you have prints for, then you have excess FP. (And there are definitely people with excess money. No one needs billions in personal wealth, or even hundreds of millions.)

 

[PianoFil]

When the GBs in your city are at max level and you don't have room or don't need/want to build the GBs you have prints for, then you have excess FP. (And there are definitely people with excess money. No one needs billions in personal wealth, or even hundreds of millions.)

1. I did not know that there was a max level on GBs. I thought they just kept going up in levels. So what is the max level of a GB where it won't let you move up another level?
2. I would love to experience having what you call excess money of billions or even millions.

 

[Ebeondi Asi]

I do. I need and want the Trillions of Gold Coins I possess...
The Dragon in me
But I know plenty of players with CF over 200. AO over 200. The SAT GBs over 150..
And they have fifty million FPs standing by... Just in case.
Sadly, not me.
As far as real world money? Im happy as Iam. Yeah a few extra would be nice maybe.. but millions?no thanks. IT would just turn into hell. No thanks.

 

[Johnny B. Goode]

1. I did not know that there was a max level on GBs. I thought they just kept going up in levels. So what is the max level of a GB where it won't let you move up another level?

Max level = current level finished, but next level not open yet. "Max level" is what the tooltip will say when you haven't opened the next level of whatever GB you're looking at. As far as I know, there is no max level on GBs, or at least no one has ever reached such a point as far as I know.

 

[Ebeondi Asi]

There is a Player created max level.. Like for Colosseum the max level is zero. Ditto Gaea, Space needle,
The max sensible level for Arc is 180

 

[JWJWB]

There is a Player created max level.. Like for Colosseum the max level is zero. Ditto Gaea, Space needle,
The max sensible level for Arc is 180

Notre dame too.

But it makes you think, if you take AO or CF one level higher, is it worth the thousands of FP? At some point, it would not be worth the fp input. But this is where the excess fp comes in. When people have nothing to put their fps in, the reasonable choice is to dump it all into your gbs. (or participate in 1.9's and get even more fp)

 

[Mor-Rioghain]

Sniping is not dependent on a ratio.

Sniping is the act of securing a spot on a GB instantly and unsolicited.

It does not necessarily imply profit, as that is only one motive. It may be sniped for blueprints at a rate the sniper feels worthwhile. Or to convert their bar FP to packs at a loss. Or to make medals on a newer city.

Sniping is not inherently malicious. There are many players who would be happy to have their buildings sniped. Possibly even more than those who mind!

Now the sniping that gets complained about usually is when a player actively planned to get more than what the sniper paid; but it has nothing to do with any specific ratio - rather their own expectations.

I agree with the general sentiment of your statements but upon further thought, I'd have to argue with the bolded text. How are unsolicited FPs not malicious? They serve no purpose outside of the contributor's needs/desires no matter how many people want to argue that they are "welcome gifts." I think the latter attitude only came about for the same reasons that players have become complacent about being plundered -- they're not really complacent, they just literally made a choice to stop getting upset about something they couldn't prevent.

I've always been of the position that I'm here to ensure my own enjoyment in the game not to make it easier or better or happier for someone else. My generosity is, and has always been, in having the choice to give, not being forced to.

The bottom line is that the ability to snipe via 'snipe zones' wouldn't have ever been possible had the calculations per level been done without making it cheaper to level in the earlier levels like all but the SAT/SASH GBs. Only if all GBs were calculated by this formula would that tired, old chestnut of "it wouldn't be snipable if you'd set up a lock" actually be true. There should never be a "punishment" phase just for unlocking a level.

Am I advocating that the developer change the math? No. I would never advocate for anything that would take up that much time/money to fix/change a problem that occured based on what "used to be." Rather, I'd advocate giving us a choice: let the GB owner decide whether or not they wish to have the basic 3 groups may contribute, e.g., friends, neighbors, guildmates. If we can have a drop-down menu allowing us to message, ignore, or report people (amongst other things), then why not a line addressing the GB issue? It should be individual and I'd definitely recommend that it be kept the way it is as a default but at least there would be a choice for the GB owner.

Having a choice makes everyone but the greediest of snipers. Ahem, I guess I mean the "purists." Oh, to heck with it. They're not whining about not being able to take advantage on the SAT/SASH GBs, are they? If they are, they're not awfully noisy about it. Let's face it, if we did have such an ability, there are probably far more people who'd just ignore that choice and there would still be plenty of sniping opportunities for the die-hards to keep them happy. And so on.

Oh, did I mention why it's important? Sure, in other posts. It's about the money. As long as there's a possibility that I can spend my own real money to get that GB, it makes it mine and by golly, I have every right to protect my investment against bad math, greed, or just plain old honest to goodness mistakes.

As long as I've got 1 blueprint and a bunch of diamonds, I can build any GB I want to. That, my friends, makes it mine. My choice, noone else's. Mine.

 

[Baltar]

I define sniping as something that is completely preventable.