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How do you define sniping?

How many fp dropped to a GB to lock your position mean you sniped it?

  • Sniper drops more fp than required by 1.9, but still make profit thanks to high level Arc they own

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sniper drops less fp than required by 1.9

    Votes: 17 85.0%
  • Sniper drops less fp than reward listed in the GB leveling window

    Votes: 3 15.0%

  • Total voters
    20
The obvious answer is if he is not a con-artist he would immediately help you find a way to pay you back.
A lot of Guild founders, (sadly) are con-artists. Like those who only allow Swap threads, and seem they usually (along with a few buddies) win the rewards... The actually run the Guild to make a profit off the suckers who join.
That your Guild leader did not offer to make it right tells me he is a con-artist.

I suggest politely offering him a position (locked) for a P1 that is the standard rate in your Guild, but also ask him to add on the Fps he 'forgot' in a private message. just make the message straight forward. Like " You forgot to do this, so to make it right please add the profit to this position.."
If he refuses or ignores it, you should look for a new Guild. He might even decide to kick you out. Which If I were in your shoes ,I would count as a blessing.
I think you misinterpreted my post. I didn't even notice and he reached out to me saying he owes me. If he hadn't told me, I never would've known about it. Now I feel bad about demanding the fps back because he reached out to me. Honestly, it doesn't really matter to me. I only missed out because he flipped it.

I guess he isn't a con-artist :)
 
I think you misinterpreted my post. I didn't even notice and he reached out to me saying he owes me. If he hadn't told me, I never would've known about it. Now I feel bad about demanding the fps back because he reached out to me. Honestly, it doesn't really matter to me. I only missed out because he flipped it.

I guess he isn't a con-artist :)
He flipped it? Sounds more like what he did was say one thing and do another.

Him to self: "That dude hasn't flipped this GB yet. I'm going to flip it since it will only cost me 1 fp."
Him to you: "Hey, man, I made a mistake and accidently flipped your Traz. Let me reimburse you!" (Warm and fuzzy feelings abound & the guild is still copacetic).
You to him: "That's so cool of you! I didn't even notice until you came forwards. I LIKE being in your guild!"
Him to self: "There's one born every minute."

'Course, it's your world and you know more about it than anyone here does ... but I've see worse than this and they make you walk away smiling and laughing for having the pleasure of knowing them.....
 
He flipped it? Sounds more like what he did was say one thing and do another.

Him to self: "That dude hasn't flipped this GB yet. I'm going to flip it since it will only cost me 1 fp."
Him to you: "Hey, man, I made a mistake and accidently flipped your Traz. Let me reimburse you!" (Warm and fuzzy feelings abound & the guild is still copacetic).
You to him: "That's so cool of you! I didn't even notice until you came forwards. I LIKE being in your guild!"
Him to self: "There's one born every minute."

'Course, it's your world and you know more about it than anyone here does ... but I've see worse than this and they make you walk away smiling and laughing for having the pleasure of knowing them.....
Meh. I shouldn't have brought this to the forum. Honestly, it was no big deal, and he technically saved me 1 fp. Thr traz was going to level 18, so its not like him flipping it was that big off a deal. Also, I actually LIKE being in his guild. Another founder gives 500 SAJM goods if you score over 500 in gbg, SAT goods if you place in the top 8 of your guild, and 1k of each SAT good if you get 4k hits. And in CA, that is a lot of higher age goods.
 
I am curious how players define sniping for them?
I know some players who consider even option 1 as sniping, just not a harmful one, while others consider sniping as mostly harmful option 2 and always harmful option 3.
Obviously, this does not apply to GB with less fp left to level than usual 1.9 or reward.
sniping is a bs issue. if spots are filled by a small amount they should be open to being hit. there are a lot of people all around that take advantage of soft spots. we all get hit. but the question is whether a real a sniping or actually helping. i think players have to grow up about this concept.
 
It's a public game and anyone can add whatever they plz, too bad for you if you don't like it. Can't say that I've ever been snipped, I add an appropriate number of FP's and msg a friend to do the next spot. Repeat until the building is finished.
 
Yes, yes, yes, and yes again. It's all relative. I say toe-mah-toe and you say toe-may-toe. The critical difference is that people are claiming that they are in one "camp" or "another" and then arguing...for the other camp. The answer lies within how you answer the following questions with all personal feelings, ethics, morality, syntax, grammar, fair or foul play, or math put to the side: The answer is either "yes" or it is "no." No other answer is correct:

Do unsolicited forge points consitute sniping? Yes or no.

That's it. Nothing more; nothing less. Now the 2 sides can argue until they all turn purple and whether anyone ever "wins" that argument is irrelevant.
 
Yes, yes, yes, and yes again. It's all relative. I say toe-mah-toe and you say toe-may-toe. The critical difference is that people are claiming that they are in one "camp" or "another" and then arguing...for the other camp. The answer lies within how you answer the following questions with all personal feelings, ethics, morality, syntax, grammar, fair or foul play, or math put to the side: The answer is either "yes" or it is "no." No other answer is correct:

Do unsolicited forge points consitute sniping? Yes or no.

That's it. Nothing more; nothing less. Now the 2 sides can argue until they all turn purple and whether anyone ever "wins" that argument is irrelevant.
It depends.
 
kicking others down a spot or making the owner pay more to flip his building
I love all my self leveling FRIENDS I make a killing off them
 
Yes, yes, yes, and yes again. It's all relative. I say toe-mah-toe and you say toe-may-toe. The critical difference is that people are claiming that they are in one "camp" or "another" and then arguing...for the other camp. The answer lies within how you answer the following questions with all personal feelings, ethics, morality, syntax, grammar, fair or foul play, or math put to the side: The answer is either "yes" or it is "no." No other answer is correct:

Do unsolicited forge points consitute sniping? Yes or no.

That's it. Nothing more; nothing less. Now the 2 sides can argue until they all turn purple and whether anyone ever "wins" that argument is irrelevant.
To that question the answer is no. However, you can't put all those other things aside. That's like asking, "Is killing someone wrong?" By itself, without context, the answer is yes. But there are clearly situations where the answer would most definitely be "no". So sometimes the answer to your question is no, but in certain situations the answer changes to a definite yes. Your position seems to be either that there is no such thing as sniping or that all unasked for FP donations are sniping, and neither case is true.
 
sniping is a bs issue. if spots are filled by a small amount they should be open to being hit. there are a lot of people all around that take advantage of soft spots. we all get hit. but the question is whether a real a sniping or actually helping. i think players have to grow up about this concept.

Maybe to you it's a BS issue. Other feel quite differently.

No we all don't get hit. Opportunism and successful sniping is the antithesis to laziness and ignorance.

Everyone of my buildings was and still is, lifted with pristine mathematics. You can't snipe me for a profit. Not going to happen. Oh sure, you can put FP on my buildings, but I control you.

I'll get what I want on my spots. You'll pay UP for them, or pay 1.9 for them, or get whacked. It's really that easy.
 
To that question the answer is no.
This is where ethics and morality are going to bash heads with reason.
However, you can't put all those other things aside. That's like asking, "Is killing someone wrong?"
You ask "Is killing someone wrong?" and assume that the 'correct' answer is 'yes' when there are many peoples and societies who've argued "no" and been 'correct,' under their societial mores and laws.

As I stated, by itself, without context, the answer
The answer is either "yes" or it is "no." No other answer is correct:
Y'all keep trying to attach judgement of some kind to this answser. I countered with a suggestion to rephrase the question without inherent judgement:
Do unsolicited forge points consitute sniping? Yes or no.
Both answers are correct, depending on where your judgement lies.
That's it. Nothing more; nothing less. Now the 2 sides can argue until they all turn purple and whether anyone ever "wins" that argument is irrelevant.
 
This is where ethics and morality are going to bash heads with reason.
How so? Asked without context there is no ethics or morality involved. And reason says that the game allows unsolicited donations to GBs, so it is not wrong by the only context that can be universally applied.
You ask "Is killing someone wrong?" and assume that the 'correct' answer is 'yes' when there are many peoples and societies who've argued "no" and been 'correct,' under their societial mores and laws.
Name one society in human history where killing someone is universally allowed within that society regardless of context. I'll wait.
As I stated, by itself, without context, the answer
Y'all keep trying to attach judgement of some kind to this answser. I countered with a suggestion to rephrase the question without inherent judgement:
Both answers are correct, depending on where your judgement lies.
If both answers are correct, then the question is meaningless. Of course, we already knew that because context is everything. And the correct answer is partially dependent on the person's judgement, but more so dependent on the circumstances of the donation. You can argue whatever context you wish to define sniping, but you seem to be arguing that either there is no such thing or that all unsolicited donations are sniping. You're horning into the discussion without expressing a viewpoint, which really makes your posts pointless by definition. You're just trolling the thread.
That's it. Nothing more; nothing less. Now the 2 sides can argue until they all turn purple and whether anyone ever "wins" that argument is irrelevant.
And this proves that you're trolling. If you don't have an opinion on the subject, fine. No need to troll others who do have an opinion.
 
I've been in Colonial Age since February 2019. I never seen someone snipe that badly. Someone sniped me today with wrong numbers. He sniped above the numbers and lost of his FPs. I wish you can see his death face looks like. Lmao.
 
I've been in Colonial Age since February 2019. I never seen someone snipe that badly. Someone sniped me today with wrong numbers. He sniped above the numbers and lost of his FPs. I wish you can see his death face looks like. Lmao.

I think it depends. Perhaps they needed the blue prints and it was worth it to pay over. I done so myself on several occasions.
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If they pay the 1.9 or over, I could care less. If they pay under the 1.9 and are on my friend's list, they get the boot.
 
How so? Asked without context there is no ethics or morality involved. And reason says that the game allows unsolicited donations to GBs, so it is not wrong by the only context that can be universally applied.

Name one society in human history where killing someone is universally allowed within that society regardless of context. I'll wait.
The World. It wasn't until about 1755-1750 BD during the reign of Babylonian King Hammurabi that it was transcribed the various punishments for crimes, including murder, depending on the social status of the victim. (For context, Hammurabi predated the biblical Moses by approximately 1000 years).

On a side note, the act of "killing someone" would have far predated Hammurabi as it's the word "murder" that is defined as the "killing of another human being," which seems to be pivotal difference between 'killing' and 'murder,' even in event of ending he life of someone from a lower social caste.
If both answers are correct, then the question is meaningless. Of course, we already knew that because context is everything. And the correct answer is partially dependent on the person's judgement, but more so dependent on the circumstances of the donation. You can argue whatever context you wish to define sniping, but you seem to be arguing that either there is no such thing or that all unsolicited donations are sniping. You're horning into the discussion without expressing a viewpoint, which really makes your posts pointless by definition.
And I've never been secretive about my particular POV on sniping. Heck, I've even stated it under another post - right here on this thread. It's not about whether it does or doesn't exist, JBG, it's about whether or not a simple debate - free of emotion, angst, blame, anything but raw fact - can occur. That is why I stated the question as I did and then offered my assessment: It's relative.

You accuse me of trolling the thread but not once, not even close to once, have you ever decided to debate me on my particular take on what constitutes sniping and exactly how the company could "fix" the problem and satisfy virtually everyone, regardless of what sided of the fence they're on.

You're just trolling the thread.

And this proves that you're trolling. If you don't have an opinion on the subject, fine. No need to troll others who do have an opinion.
It proves nothing other than you call everyone who doesn't agree with you a troll. I'm beginning to wonder if you even know what that word means! I know I have better things to do that sit in a corner and throw pretzel sticks and popcorn balls at everyone who walks by screaming "Troll!! You're a TROLL!! BOO! HISS!! GO AWAY, YOU!! TROLL!! You're
horning into the discussion without expressing a viewpoint,
YOU TROLL!! PSSST! BOO! GO AWAY!!!
 
And I've never been secretive about my particular POV on sniping. Heck, I've even stated it under another post - right here on this thread. It's not about whether it does or doesn't exist, JBG, it's about whether or not a simple debate - free of emotion, angst, blame, anything but raw fact - can occur. That is why I stated the question as I did and then offered my assessment: It's relative.
ROFL! Time and again you have shown that you are not able to have a "simple debate - free of emotion, angst, blame, anything but raw fact".
 
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The World. It wasn't until about 1755-1750 BD during the reign of Babylonian King Hammurabi that it was transcribed the various punishments for crimes, including murder, depending on the social status of the victim. (For context, Hammurabi predated the biblical Moses by approximately 1000 years).
First, Hammurabi only predated Moses by 200-400 years at most. Second, Moses wrote down information that had been passed down orally for centuries, including the story of Cain and Abel. Guess what that story involved? Killing someone. And it was clearly considered wrong. The Ten Commandments, which is probably what you are referring to, merely codifies what God had already declared to be right and wrong.
It proves nothing other than you call everyone who doesn't agree with you a troll.
No, not by a long shot. In fact, I rarely call anyone a troll. Mostly because most of the people I disagree with usually argue with salient points and not with ridiculous, long-winded diatribes about irrelevant stuff.
You accuse me of trolling the thread but not once, not even close to once, have you ever decided to debate me on my particular take on what constitutes sniping and exactly how the company could "fix" the problem and satisfy virtually everyone, regardless of what sided of the fence they're on.
I'm not scrolling back through this 5 page thread to see if you actually laid out your position, so why don't you share it again. I'd love to see how Inno could "satisfy virtually everyone", which they haven't done with anything they've ever done with the game.
 
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