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Please! I drastically need to know my options when I go on vacation to Colorado this January.
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[Marijuana] Two states it's legal, more to follow? Government says, "Wanna bet?"
Please! I drastically need to know my options when I go on vacation to Colorado this January.
DeletedUser1692
Never Say Never. Marijuana, though less harmful than alcohol is also an intoxicant, and people have died due to that intoxication, traffic crashes being the easiest example.
DeletedUser34
BAH!!!!
There was a news report on the other day that made a good point for me about the legalization of marijuana.
They were making a big deal about how one of the smoke shops finally got busted for selling synthetic marijuana and bath salts. They also made a point in saying that it took from April (when they first investigated under cover) until November to bust the business. The county only has 3 drug enforcement officers, and because it is so difficult to investigate synthetic drugs, they rarely do. They focus more on common street drugs, mainly marijuana. The report went on to say if they didn't spend as much time and money on marijuana, they would be better prepared to fight the war on designer drugs.
This got me thinking, what is worse? Letting the smoke shops sell drugs that can kill our kids, or legalize pot, and all the money saved can be put towards investigation of more dangerous drugs?
There was a news report on the other day that made a good point for me about the legalization of marijuana.
They were making a big deal about how one of the smoke shops finally got busted for selling synthetic marijuana and bath salts. They also made a point in saying that it took from April (when they first investigated under cover) until November to bust the business. The county only has 3 drug enforcement officers, and because it is so difficult to investigate synthetic drugs, they rarely do. They focus more on common street drugs, mainly marijuana. The report went on to say if they didn't spend as much time and money on marijuana, they would be better prepared to fight the war on designer drugs.
This got me thinking, what is worse? Letting the smoke shops sell drugs that can kill our kids, or legalize pot, and all the money saved can be put towards investigation of more dangerous drugs?
DeletedUser2910
I personally think Marijuana should be legalized. I have my medical card and have researched this topic a lot. Based on what i have reaserched smoking tobacco kill more than Marijuana ever could. You can not OD on Marijuana and its medicinal benefits are substantial. They help people who are in pain or have nausea or trouble eating. This is true more for chemo patients who get nauseated and can not eat well. This also help with AIDS or other diseases. Above all else i see no problem with Marijuana. If someone wants to smoke themselves to death or drink themselves to death why not allow someone to use Marijuana knowing they cant OD. Marijuana being illegal is just plain stupid. As someone posted earlier the government should have no right to decide what substances we are allowed to put into our own bodies. If tobacco is legal and kills a lot of people then, why not legalized marijuana which has never as far as I know killed anyone?
DeletedUser2982
Ahh who cares let them smoke it nothings changed they always been there.. Besides that drug free work places that want to be drug free should stay just to keep piece of mind that no "pot head" is working on your car, your doctor, police officer and so on , not that they weren't before.
DeletedUser
Hehe, that's about as rational as "Ooh, my foot is sore, lets cut it off!" Marijuana is just as illegal as any other illicit substance, no-one is forcing the county enforcement officers to prioritise/investigate cases relating to it, they have done so of their own accord. It would be perfectly possible to enforce a more lenient policy for marijuana, fixing the time wasting problem so the squad can target more dangerous drugs, without legalising the whole process.
Btw, I suggest we legalise assault so we have more time and money to investigate homicide cases. I also suggest we build more casinos so they donate more money to children's organised sport.
If you want medical marijuana then go for your life -- if and only if you have a doctor's prescription. Next thing you know peeps will want to buy full doses of morphine at Walmart, omg! Speaking of which, can you provide any evidence it is physically impossible to overdose on marijuana? Not everyone is a "healthy adult"...
So long as you expect the government to fund hospitals, medical treatment and healthcare, or at least have affordable private insurance made available, it's absolutely their right to determine what you can put in your body. An old, obese and stoned population would put an unprecedented strain on the medical system, and like cake to the thighs, that's going straight to your insurance premium.
DeletedUser2982
Can you explain in 10 ways why POT is effecting you personally ? Maybe you should of tried it
And there is health people that smoke pot they my not smoke cigarettes but they eat healthy and exercise.
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DeletedUser34
You know you didn't deal with his fundamental point in your reply. As long as someone else is footing the bills instead of the private population, then it is the governments right to regulate the legality of it.
I should also note, assuming something about someone is quite trying.
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DeletedUser2982
Keep it illegal ...
DeletedUser3
Would you like to elaborate?
DeletedUser2982
Are population was already old, obese and stone before the vote along with health care and affordable insurance its a joke.
And all of you non smokers out there what does being able to carry 28 grams of pot make any thing different its still illegal federally, you always got to bring politics in the mix when nothings changed just the amount you can carry
And all of you non smokers out there what does being able to carry 28 grams of pot make any thing different its still illegal federally, you always got to bring politics in the mix when nothings changed just the amount you can carry
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DeletedUser34
well from experience, I have seen pot abused. It does tend to make the average pothead lazy and unproductive. And probably those who don't smoke know how to spell...because they paid attention in school, but hey that is just an observation 
DeletedUser2982
well from experience, I have seen pot abused. It does tend to make the average pothead lazy and unproductive. And probably those who don't smoke know how to spell...because they paid attention in school, but hey that is just an observation
You may have point to this but there is a good and bad but you cant judge a book by its cover.
On your school comment I did pay attention just not to reading and language more like math and science, kind of a hands on person and this does not make me unproductive.
DeletedUser
I don't know if I agree. I believe "Promote the General Welfare" is a very basic foundation of the Constitution. To be truthful, I don't know if the same warnings "do not handle heavy machinery…" are mandatory or not for “legalized” marijuana. I will also agree that you may be capable of pointing out several people who have successful in life after smoking marijuana. But, most of them have quit smoking it. Any substance that is used to "escape reality", including alcohol, does little more than mask the real problem for the individual. All too often, these “solutions” exacerbate the problem.
I don’t really know anybody that smokes marijuana, or does drugs for that matter, so I will use an analogy. How many people do you know that “drink to drown their sorrows”. Usually their underlying problem is money and employment. What kind of sense does it make to “piss” away their money drinking? Additionally, the drinking creates more problems at work because of the tendency of drinkers to be lackadaisical (referring to attitude), somnolent (to awareness), and lethargic (to physical and mental condition) at work. Any worker that is not an asset to a company is expendable. Therefore they stay in their same position, at their same pay. This cause an ever increasing spiral – “My life sucks.” <=> “I need to drink to escape.” From my distant observation, I see the same type of effect with drugs, including marijuana.
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DeletedUser2982
If it was to go that far I don't think that the warnings would be any different then alcohol, prescription drugs and tobacco, but I think it would be treated more like alcohol for example " No walking around smoking in public and driving under the influence" if you can even say that but there would be there coffee shops like bars. But then you get into work places and there idea of what you should do after hours.
You cant rule out social and medical proposes, I kinda think of it as something to keep me home when I could be out getting in trouble probably why I play this game.
DeletedUser
This must be the first forum I signed up for in the past 17 years , where the thread about this got even so far as five posts without a Dutchie chiming in.(Yes; we're the proverbial rats on any ship when it comes to internet-fora...)
Looks like I'll have to crack that egg here.
Lessee....
1- For all practical appliance, Canabis is legal here.(Some minor fine-print about the import-stuff, but that irrelevant to the end-user)
2- Crimes, related to Canabis are nigh non-existent and the few (extremely rare!) instances have more to do with the particular person's mental/social difunctions than the drug itself; Without the drug, they'd commit their crimes for other "reasons".(I hope I got that across properly...)
3- Canabis and driving: A chapter in and of itself...
First some groundworks:
You guys in the USA practically LIVE in your cars.
Seeing as the sheer distances between communal spots that's not too hard to imagine.(But you really ARE exaggerating it...)
Better public transportation(PT) could remedy that to some extent, but don't hold your breath for it to occur...
Over here, we have a population of nearly 17 Million people in a country about the size of NY city. Combined with a (still) excellent PT-grid.
Now; Cannabis being legal for the end-user means it's available close to home, eliminating the need for motorized transport.
Factor in: When stoned, the user tends to be overtly relaxed and usually doesn't feel the need "to go somewhere" (Except maybe for a quick bite at one of the local Shoarma-shops, but those are around the corner as well).
Even in the rare occasions, they DO need to go somewhere beyond walking-distance, there's the PT easily available; so why bother with the stress of driving a car and deal with all those idiots on the road?
4- The "Stepping Stone" theory is bullocks. period.
Those who moved on to the "heavier stuff" would've done so without canabis too. Sooner even.
5- About 90-95% of the people in the USA, jailed/convicted for canabis-related crimes are so SOLELY because canabis itself is criminalised(ie- use/sale/posession/import of the stuff) not on crimes caused by the use.(Theft/murder/rape(is that even possible for a stoner to do?...)/burglary/forgery to enable them to use/aquire the drug) I hope the difference I intend to point out is clear here.
In conclusio: Canabis is a problem, BECAUSE the gouvernment MAKES it a problem.
If I had to choose, I'd prefer to see my kids(provided I had any...) with a bong, rather than a bottle of Jack's.
)Looks like I'll have to crack that egg here.
Lessee....
1- For all practical appliance, Canabis is legal here.(Some minor fine-print about the import-stuff, but that irrelevant to the end-user)
2- Crimes, related to Canabis are nigh non-existent and the few (extremely rare!) instances have more to do with the particular person's mental/social difunctions than the drug itself; Without the drug, they'd commit their crimes for other "reasons".(I hope I got that across properly...)
3- Canabis and driving: A chapter in and of itself...
First some groundworks:
You guys in the USA practically LIVE in your cars.
Seeing as the sheer distances between communal spots that's not too hard to imagine.(But you really ARE exaggerating it...)
Better public transportation(PT) could remedy that to some extent, but don't hold your breath for it to occur...
Over here, we have a population of nearly 17 Million people in a country about the size of NY city. Combined with a (still) excellent PT-grid.
Now; Cannabis being legal for the end-user means it's available close to home, eliminating the need for motorized transport.
Factor in: When stoned, the user tends to be overtly relaxed and usually doesn't feel the need "to go somewhere" (Except maybe for a quick bite at one of the local Shoarma-shops, but those are around the corner as well).
Even in the rare occasions, they DO need to go somewhere beyond walking-distance, there's the PT easily available; so why bother with the stress of driving a car and deal with all those idiots on the road?
4- The "Stepping Stone" theory is bullocks. period.
Those who moved on to the "heavier stuff" would've done so without canabis too. Sooner even.
5- About 90-95% of the people in the USA, jailed/convicted for canabis-related crimes are so SOLELY because canabis itself is criminalised(ie- use/sale/posession/import of the stuff) not on crimes caused by the use.(Theft/murder/rape(is that even possible for a stoner to do?...)/burglary/forgery to enable them to use/aquire the drug) I hope the difference I intend to point out is clear here.
In conclusio: Canabis is a problem, BECAUSE the gouvernment MAKES it a problem.
If I had to choose, I'd prefer to see my kids(provided I had any...) with a bong, rather than a bottle of Jack's.
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DeletedUser2557
Make it and casinos legal and tax the crap out them both. conclusion debt resolve in our lifetime.
DeletedUser2982
Now thats the kinda thing that would keep it from being legal in other states even though pot heads may have a bad image we are not dumb it just wouldn't get voted in.
DeletedUser3362
Ok lets get things straight here Name one incident were marijuana has killed someone. Also i want to point out something, you know when you see those comercials for new prescription drugs and they say really fast at the end side effect may include nausia head aches upset stomach death siezures etc and then you go hmm what are the side effects of this NATURAL painkiller/marijuana ets see there are basically 2. 1 no hand eye cordination 2 you got to jail if you have any on you.
DeletedUser
Hmmm.....
Sounds debatable.
I've been(Regional) playing premier league Darts and tossed quite a few good matches while "stoned" in my days.
Your kilometrage may vary, though.