Parker The ll
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How do negotiations work is there any skill when it comes to the or is it entirely luck-based (just guessing)
I disagree. I call it negotiascam. It is designed to get you to spend diamonds; Like any good scam, they convince you that you have a chance then bamm 50/50 and it is wrong 99.999999% of the time hoping you will spend the 10 diamonds. That is a true definition of a scam. Plus why won't they let the extra turn work in BG.You just don't know what you are doing Brian.
As someone who has negotiated extensively over the years, I can tell you you are 100% wrong. Other than the inherent odds being against you, no different than a casino, there is nothing Inno is doing to tip the scales, and certainly no set pattern as you imagine.I disagree. I call it negotiascam. It is designed to get you to spend diamonds; Like any good scam, they convince you that you have a chance then bamm 50/50 and it is wrong 99.999999% of the time hoping you will spend the 10 diamonds. That is a true definition of a scam. Plus why won't they let the extra turn work in BG.
I call it negotiascam. It is designed to get ME to spend diamonds
Well I have actually tracked it for several months so I know what I am saying is correct. The goods you choose are irrelevant. the incorrect, correct, wrong person is predetermined before you choose the goods, just like the prize on the prize wheel is predetermined and hitting the stop button does nothing to choose the prize. for example it is near impossible to get a 5 goods negotiation on 3 turns if the first outcome is 1 incorrect and 4 wrong person. (I would say impossible because I have never been able to do it but I am sure it may have happened once or twice for someone) I never attempt a 6 goods negotiation on 3 turns and if the last turn on a 4 or 5 good negotiation is a 50/50, I give up and save my good because it is almost always the opposite of what you choose. Again, the good that you choose does not matter. It is already predetermined that you choose the wrong one or not (99% of the time you do not) and I never negotiate when the cost of the good is more than 1. You may think that you have faired better but you have not. It is just your memory playing tricks on you.As someone who has negotiated extensively over the years, I can tell you you are 100% wrong. Other than the inherent odds being against you, no different than a casino, there is nothing Inno is doing to tip the scales, and certainly no set pattern as you imagine.
I've never spent diamonds on negotiations, although presented the opportunity each time I run out of chances. No biggie, I know how to hit the abort button, and how to restart a new one. I also know how to stack the odds in my favor in GBG by avoiding 6 good negotiations, no 4th turn needed.
Seems you just suck at negotiations.
Well I have actually tracked it for several months so I know what I am saying is correct. The goods you choose are irrelevant. the incorrect, correct, wrong person is predetermined before you choose the goods, just like the prize on the prize wheel is predetermined and hitting the stop button does nothing to choose the prize. for example it is near impossible to get a 5 goods negotiation on 3 turns if the first outcome is 1 incorrect and 4 wrong person. (I would say impossible because I have never been able to do it but I am sure it may have happened once or twice for someone) I never attempt a 6 goods negotiation on 3 turns and if the last turn on a 4 or 5 good negotiation is a 50/50, I give up and save my good because it is almost always the opposite of what you choose. Again, the good that you choose does not matter. It is already predetermined that you choose the wrong one or not (99% of the time you do not) and I never negotiate when the cost of the good is more than 1. You may think that you have faired better but you have not. It is just your memory playing tricks on you.
Well I have actually tracked it for several months so I know what I am saying is correct.
you just suck at negotiations.
To the OP, yes there is some skill to negotiating. Think about it as a logic puzzle and work out ways to efficiently Identify and eliminate goods from each set. You're not always going to win, but it's not the diamond trap it's made out to be in some of the other threads going around on this topic.
That's not to says there's not some degree of "luck" involved, but if you approach a negotiation smartly instead of just spamming goods for three rounds you'll go a long way towards making some of your own "luck" in the process.
I believe your posts are a scam, because you say this:Like any good scam,
But then in a later post you say this:they convince you that you have a chance then bamm 50/50 and it is wrong 99.999999% of the time
So you don't actually know whether you would be right or wrong, by your own admission. Further, you say:if the last turn on a 4 or 5 good negotiation is a 50/50, I give up and save my good
But if your statement about giving up on the last turn is true, then this one has to be false. You can't claim to have tracked results that you didn't actually get.Well I have actually tracked it for several months so I know what I am saying is correct.
Seriously? And then you come here and purport to "know the truth" about negotiating? Crawl back under your bridge, troll.I never negotiate when the cost of the good is more than 1.
If it wasn't all about just getting you to spend the diamonds, why not pay for the last turn with one of each of the goods?Totally agree…. Work at this guessing game and guess what… you’ll get better at it. There is a learning curve. There is a lot of logic to negotiating. At first you want to do 2 things… eliminate those goods that are not used in this puzzle and move the ones that are in the wrong slot to another slot. Sometimes you don’t solve the puzzle in the allotted turns. In that case don’t spend diamond. Just abort and restart that puzzle.
Please show us the tracked results thenWell I have actually tracked it for several months so I know what I am saying is correct.
It's a strategy game. You're meant to use logic to work out the answer. Sometimes you'll make mistakes or be less efficient in your working out and need to start again. That's ok, you don't need to win every timeIf it wasn't all about just getting you to spend the diamonds, why not pay for the last turn with one of each of the goods?
I no longer have it, I did it months ago on a notebook I discarded. When I get time (sorry, I work full time) I will do it again but probably won't discuss it here. There doesn't seem to be any adults here who can have a friendly discussion about a game without name calling. Look, can I be wrong? Sure but I'm not calling anybody names who disagree with me.Please show us the tracked results then
the 50/50/90 rule is supposed to be a joke but it is not when it comes to negotiation. it is almost always (way more than 90%) the good you did not choose when it comes down to a 50/50 chance on the last turn. You don't need much tracking to figure that one out.It's a strategy game. You're meant to use logic to work out the answer. Sometimes you'll make mistakes or be less efficient in your working out and need to start again. That's ok, you don't need to win every time
Diamonds are for if you lost and don't want to redo the negotiation.