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New debate on Feild Soberity Test for Marijuana

Discussion in 'Debate Hall' started by Flyingmadman, May 11, 2017.

  1. Flyingmadman

    Flyingmadman New Member

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    Disclosure Im not a pot smoker or do drugs of any type... just creating a debate on a topic...In California they are trying to implement a new Feild Soberity Test for Marijuana it is similar to a DUI test.... Question how can you test someone and get an accurate sample of how much THC is in someones system at the time of test and what is legal limit ? Is there one? Problem is it stays in system for 30 days or more so you could get pulled over two weeks after you smoked.. yes its still in your system so what you are going to get an DUI? I dont know about all this I see alot of legal suits coming its already implemented in 3 cities here...I do understand concept for it but ......
     
  2. nomad richie

    nomad richie Well-Known Member

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    Myy understanding on the tests is that it is DETECTABLE for a long time, so you will 'flunk' a drug usage test for quite some time, and these tests mostly look for metabolized remnants. Different tests can detect the level of active ingrediats, which conform much closer to your level of imparment, which are the tests that you would use for this sort of test.

    Disclaimer, I am not a pot user, and subject to the first type of test for cause.
     
  3. ajax659

    ajax659 Member

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    Different Test show different Things.
    Blood Test - up to a week.. depending on use. 1 toke will show up in blood shortly after you hit it.
    Urine - pot stays in system 1 - 30 days or more depending on how often and how much
    Hair - shows 90 day pot use no matter how much or little you smoke
    Mouth Swab - 1 hour to 12 hours

    In my opinion, I would think someone smoking pot is much less dangerous, by far, than someone drinking alcohol.
     
  4. Flyingmadman

    Flyingmadman New Member

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    I agree... just want to eat and be lazy lol
     
  5. ValhallaEmpire

    ValhallaEmpire Active Member

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    Sorry for arriving late to this, there is a problem with the discussion here worth addressing:

    Field Sobriety Tests are not the same as medical laboratory tests to evaluate the contents of a person's bodily fluids.

    FSTs are those tests that officers instruct people suspected of being under of the influence, at roadside. Alcohol-related FSTs for example are: Walk and Turn (aka Balance), One-legged Stand, and Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus (HGN) test. These tests confirm suspicions, providing probable cause to then require the laboratory tests previously mentioned.

    Shouse Law in California, a private law firm that specializes in DUI defense states on their website that California law enforcement agencies employ the alcohol-related FSTs currently to address marijuana-oriented influence incidents, and I suspect there's no reason to re-invent the wheel on these tests for the purposes of addressing marijuana.
     
  6. liotr

    liotr New Member

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    First the police officer has to suspect you are driving impaired. Weaving in the lane, missing stop signs and such. Then they get to do a field sobriety test. This tests your control of your body and your ability to follow instructions. This generated the call for a screening test. In the case of alcohol, a breathalyzer or a blood test. In the case of marijuana, I believe that there is currently no breathalyzer or similar field test available yet.

    The standard field sobriety tests may or may not need slight tweaking to work well for detecting impaired by marijuana. A field test for the presencep of marujuana impairment sould be developed.

    I am not certain whether driving high on marijuana is safer than driving drink or not. I have yet to see stastics on driving accidents that also take into account usage prevalence.
     
  7. Elfwand

    Elfwand New Member

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    A chemical test would be difficult for the reasons you've given but there are the old school tests for a driver's balance and manual deterity. Less reliable, which is why we have breathalyzers but the facts is the officers are trained to determine if someone seems unsafe to drive.
     
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  8. Shy Pete

    Shy Pete New Member

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    Stick them in a car simulator or put them in a Fortnite game while wearing an Oculus. If they're stoned or drunk they'll be dead within a minute.
     
  9. RazorbackPirate

    RazorbackPirate Well-Known Member

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    I like that idea, but the officer has to successfully complete the same tasks within the same time frame before handing it over to you.
     
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