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New Ranking Feedback

Discussion in 'Announcement Feedback' started by DarkArtist69, Dec 17, 2015.

  1. Soul Binder

    Soul Binder Guest

    I spent years of my life "standing up for what's right" and putting my very real life on the line daily so people like you can waste taxpayers money in courts with nonsense cases like your talking about.

    Some easy questions for you.
    1) did you get the diamonds or other virtual merchandise Inno sold you?
    2) did you utilize said virtual merchandise?
    3) at time of purchase and subsequent use were you dissatisfied with the merchandise or the delivery thereof?

    If you answered yes to the first two questions and no to the 3rd then you haven't got a legal case.

    Your only argument is that the company made changes to their product after you'd used it for some time and your purchases no longer represented the same value to you.
    Fact remains you are still reaping the benefits of those purchases, they just aren't giving you the same benefits as previously i.e. an inflated score that has no impact on your ability to play the game.

    You have lost nothing of real material value, so are not eligible for damages.
    Maybe you might make a case for suffering mental anguish and damage...good luck with that.
  2. ChandraguptaM

    ChandraguptaM Member

    Aug 18, 2015
    You cant directly buy points with diamonds. Points is an outcome of playing the game (even for those playing for free). You spend diamonds on advertised specific game features of that item like BP or Expansion.

    Bugs (unless its Microsoft ;)) and metrics don't usually come under features. At best the court will laugh at worst fine for coming up with frivolous law suit.
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  3. lemonwedgie

    lemonwedgie Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    Oh my ... you are an absolute joy ...:rolleyes:
  4. qaccy

    qaccy Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2014
    The reason my GBs aren't at a super high level is because I don't care enough to spend diamonds on levelling them up. And that's really all it is, and why 'everyone doesn't have a level 50+ GB'. You gave out a lot of hogwash about needing an efficient city to be able to boost GBs quickly, but it's just that, hogwash. The #1 on my server hardly has an efficient city, but their GBs still go up at a lightning pace...because it's all about the diamonds. That's the only way you can keep up with that sort of demand for goods. Unless there's some secret strategy to be able to produce thousands of attractive goods every day...but hey, that person isn't doing it and their GBs still level very quickly. And yes, every day at some points (you should know, the Arc makes it very easy to profit from a GB levelling). I watch them. :)

    Again, GvG, you're wrong. Even farm guilds don't use beaches to farm points, that's asinine. They go to secluded areas where they don't have to worry about outside guilds attempting to move on their sectors...areas that aren't going to be reached in the first couple of days. And to reinforce the point further, it wasn't really 'farming' when sieges cost 8 troops apiece in addition to the goods, treasuries were brand-new, treasury GBs were still in their infancy, and everyone around them was also in a rush to grab whatever sectors they could reach. But I guess to you, fighting at all in GvG constitutes farming? If that's the case, good day sir, you've won the argument.
  5. cmess21

    cmess21 New Member

    Feb 24, 2016
    i agree that the points were a lil too high... but the way that "some" of the top players in this game constructed their cities (which isn't all diamonds), has now been jeopardized!!
    Something should be done to increase the leveling points to a bit higher for those that have invested so much, time, money and effort in doing so!

    giving points for donated is good i guess, but, i mean making goods and donating isn't very difficult, and is a poor way to determine how "good" or high ranked that player is... GB global points a lil higher, make us feel a lil better about all that commitment, fights weigh aloft more than donating goods, and it would be perfect!!

    i hope someone does something about this
  6. Freedom2112

    Freedom2112 New Member

    Jun 25, 2014
    Dude, seriously, just stop making yourself so bad. You're proving to everyone that you have no clue what you're talking about. Who said you had to spend Diamonds to level up your GBs? This statement of yours just proves how clueless you are in this matter. In order to level up a GB to Level 50, 75, or 100 without using Diamonds is by having an efficient city that produces tons of high level Goods to give as rewards. I produce over 500 TE goods every single day and trade them down for even more Goods. Sometimes I can end up with 2,000+ goods in a day after trading down. There's no secret strategy to doing producing that many goods, it just takes building your city correctly over a long period of time and managing it correctly...but it takes time and patience. So you can take that 'hogwash' comment of yours back.

    The #1 player in your world that you spoke of has over 160 x Shrines and collects over 225+ FPs a day. So if he or she is spending diamonds to level up their GBs, well that's on them but one doesn't need diamonds to level of GBs. Once again, that's where building the right city, managing it correctly, and recruiting FP donors by way of offering great prizes comes into play. You don't need to buy a single diamond for this to happen. The way you get your BPs is by simply donating to another high level GB of the same type.

    Again, GvG, you are still confused. Do you even know what Ghost Guilds are? Do you know what the ping-ponging method is? That's what I thought. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's best you go and find out before you make such silly and erroneous comments.
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2016
  7. Freedom2112

    Freedom2112 New Member

    Jun 25, 2014
    Don't talk to me about putting your life on the line...I served 21 years in the US Army with 4 deployments overseas. I retired from Walter Reed with if you know what I mean. Like I said, I'll be talking to a lawyer next week...how is that wasting taxpayer's money? I'm using my own money.

    And yes, it is very disheartening to lose 99.99% of my overall points that I earned for the past couple of years. For disabled Veterans, games like this is all we have and for many of us it's our only outlet. We take pride in excelling in everything we do. I went from last in my guild to #1 in all the US servers and #2 in the entire world and I took pride in that. Now, that and my points have been taken from me. That's what I'll be discussing about with a lawyer. I'm also in contact with Inno concerning this matter. I'll update the forum as information becomes available to me.
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2016
  8. Soul Binder

    Soul Binder Guest

    I Salute you as a fellow disabled veteran.
    However I think you'd be wise to know who your spouting off to before calling them gutless.
    You are of course free to spend your money any way you want to, however if somehow you do manage to get some sort of legal action into the court system then you are definitely wasting taxpayers money.

    So you had the highest score on any US server for this game, that's great, now as they say, adapt and overcome. Instead of sitting smug and bored at the top of the charts revel in the challenge you've been given to get back to that spot and stay there.

    Honestly even with your score reduction odds are good I'll never get anywhere close to what you have now. Not because I won't be playing to my utmost, but simply due to limits of time and finances.

    Regardless of the things life throws at me, I only have to walk into my local VA hospital or visit the national cemetery where many friends and family lay to be reminded that there are so many who have had it worse.

    This is a game it's meant to be something to be enjoyed. Competition is great but in the end it's the people you meet, the friends you make that are important, not some score that will disappear into digital neverland at some point in time.
  9. Freedom2112

    Freedom2112 New Member

    Jun 25, 2014
    I have adapted and overcome every single time Inno/FOE has made drastic changes and moved the goalposts on us. However, this time it's gone too far...it's time to take a stand.

    You don't have a full understanding because you've only been playing for a couple of months. Inno/FOE has made 5 major changes in the past couple if years as I mentioned on page #11. Inno/FOE has a long track record of making drastic changes and negating the players hard work and time spent on the game. As I said earlier, this time it's gone too far. With that in mind, there's no reason to adapt to this new point system because Inno/FOE will simply change it again in the near future and negate your progress during that period.
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2016
  10. Cassaundrea

    Cassaundrea Well-Known Member

    Dec 11, 2013
    With the goods needing to be used to gain points and if you do more negotiating instead of fighting to gain sectors on the continental map at the end of eras you are stymied. No tech tree to use goods, and once you complete the continental map no negotiating only option is to add to treasury which just sits there. Otherwise you slide in points as the fighters just keep fighting and you have nothing really to counter it until a new age is opened which is only what...every 6 or + so months. So yes the fighters especially the last age opened are majorly favored over builders.
  11. booney2113

    booney2113 New Member

    Jan 31, 2015
    Good day all. I made a post a few days ago ,right after the transition. Once the transition occurred I lost 700 positions in rank. I was nowhere near happy as many of us we're not. So I figured I'll adapt and overcome, I continue playing the game as I have always in the past and I noticed that I was slowly sliding backwards with my old gameplay style. So I figured I would fight all the neighbors in my neighborhood that did not aid me, and all of those plunder goods would get donated into my Treasury. Surely that would be enough to maintain my position or even gain a little. I was wrong I continued sliding backwards in rank. So I continued fighting, and I even added 600 of my additional goods daily to my guild Treasury. I noticed I still was sliding slowly back in rank. So then I decided to level my great buildings a few times, I am NOT progressing forward but I am NOT sliding backwards currently. My computer bounces on my passenger seat approximately 18 hours a day with this game on, so it is not for a lack of trying. I personally think that this new scoring system is not working to credit the players who diligently spend many many hours a day on this game. The interesting thing is I checked the statistics for freedom2112 world. The interesting thing is out of the top 1000 players 248 of them are inactive, that is almost approximately 25%. These are the players that make this game money ,they have put the time and effort to get to that position. Those statistics were only on his world of B. From my experience in the last few days I have noticed that I figured a way out to maintain my position and not lose ground but also not gain ground either. So I am NOT happy with this, but large companies are going to do what they want, and when they want. And these companies figure they will just get a new customer base. I give freedom2112 a lot of credit for trying to stand up for what's right but ultimately I don't think there will be any resolution made unfortunately. You all have a good day, and now you may proceed on bashing my post. keep looking up.
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2016
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  12. Shaunypoo

    Shaunypoo Active Member

    Mar 31, 2015
    The only world I play in is B and I guarantee you that many of the top 1000 players are not diamond players. There is no way to know for sure how many of that 25% that quit are diamond players, either. I barely moved in the rankings. I consider myself a pretty well rounded player who skews towards fighting. Since I haven't been significantly affected by the scoring change, I will just continue to fight. I will say I am enjoying seeing a few of my neighbors drop like stones.

    I think goods farming is more beneficial to the players in the earlier eras, while fighting favors those in the later eras, especially those who have finished the tech tree.
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  13. Glarg

    Glarg Well-Known Member

    Apr 4, 2014
    Goods farming would be beneficial to both. Those in later eras, and especially those who have finished the tech tree, have much more room for building, and can produce vast quantities of goods they can then donate to their guild's treasury....which they can then use to fight in GvG with.
  14. Deathmjp

    Deathmjp Active Member

    May 21, 2015
    As a player who lost about 40 billion points in the new system, here I am expressing my support and gratitude that the ridiculously unbalanced GB points have been addressed. I was tired of seeing GB hoes with 10k fights in the top 10. Now they are where they belong with the rest of the farmers.
  15. rube26105

    rube26105 Member

    Jan 4, 2015

    to see the funny responses on it LOL
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  16. JennyButler

    JennyButler Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2014
    Totally incorrect, see you in six years after you pass the bar exam.
  17. callawaymemeh

    callawaymemeh Member

    Dec 27, 2013
    Can the Gold/Silver/Bronze Award be polished?
  18. jaelis

    jaelis Well-Known Member

    Nov 18, 2013
    No, they cannot. That is meant to be a benefit, since they don't use up aid.
  19. shrekgreen

    shrekgreen Active Member

    Sep 5, 2015
    What jaelis Said. But, did found out it can be Upgrade with Reno.
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  20. bomber9530

    bomber9530 Active Member

    Oct 20, 2015
    That is awesome! I might just make room for it in my city now.