New trading ratios?

Daisy the Benevolent

Active Member
Has anyone else noticed the recent plethora of what I would consider unfair or disadvantageous trades. For example, where I thought the rule of thumb when trading goods from the same age was 1:1 or thereabout, nearly all the trades I'm seeing now are 1:2 (like 1 honey for 2 granite). Even worse, I'm seeing trades at 1:1 or even 1:2 for lower age to higher age goods (like 1 honey for 2 glass), when I thought that the rule of thumb was 2:1. In my market currently, 46 out of 126 total player-offered trades are at 1:2 (36.5%)! Is this because of the new "fair trade" button? I am all for supply and demand market theory but in this case it is so unbalanced that I have to believe Inno has programmed it incorrectly since those are not fair trades. Having the market flooded with these unfair trades is breaking down the entire market system since no sane person would take these trades unless they were absolutely desperate. Is this a bug? Has it been reported?

Thanks!
 

Konrad the mediocre

Well-Known Member
The "fair trade" button is not a filter. If you post a trade with the button ticked, it simply prefills the trade according to 1:1 for same age, 1:2 for trading up to any higher age, and 2:1 trading down to any lower age. If you're seeing trades that deviate from that then person creating the trade didn't tick the button.
 

ardak kumerin

Well-Known Member
unfair or disadvantageous trades
I post a lot of them myself, but there is a reason.
I trade Modern Era goods for forge points.
I will sometimes have my party post something ridiculous like 50 lumber for 100 Packaging.
I'll accept the trade, then my party applies forge points to a great building of my choice.
Sometimes I'll trade way beyond the normal parameters for hard-to-find stuff like Granite or Copper.
Who ever is giving me the Granite or Copper is getting a fantastic deal but to me it's just a goods production building in use.

This is the Fair Trade Calculator.
Spock recommends it.

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http://foe.dppro.nl/index.php?l=tools&s=fairtrade

Sometimes people set unfair trades to make profit.
The 1:2 ratio works in the beginning but once you get to Colonial Age, the values are not as far apart.
Otherwise the production costs in supplies and coins would double every step up.

Double [price in 24 hours]: 400 - 800 - 1,600 - 3,200 - 6,400 - 12,800 - 25,600 - 51,200 - 102,400 - 204,800 - 409,600 - etc

Actual cost [price in 24 hours]: 400 - 800 - 1,600 - 3,200 - 6,400 - 6,900 - 12,800 - 16,000 - 19,200 - 28,000 - 33,600 - 40,000 - 46,800
 

Daisy the Benevolent

Active Member
I post a lot of them myself, but there is a reason.
I trade Modern Era goods for forge points.
I will sometimes have my party post something ridiculous like 50 lumber for 100 Packaging.
I'll accept the trade, then my party applies forge points to a great building of my choice.
Sometimes I'll trade way beyond the normal parameters for hard-to-find stuff like Granite or Copper.
Who ever is giving me the Granite or Copper is getting a fantastic deal but to me it's just a goods production building in use.

This is the Fair Trade Calculator.
Spock recommends it.

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http://foe.dppro.nl/index.php?l=tools&s=fairtrade

Sometimes people set unfair trades to make profit.
The 1:2 ratio works in the beginning but once you get to Colonial Age, the values are not as far apart.
Otherwise the production costs in supplies and coins would double every step up.

Double [price in 24 hours]: 400 - 800 - 1,600 - 3,200 - 6,400 - 12,800 - 25,600 - 51,200 - 102,400 - 204,800 - 409,600 - etc

Actual cost [price in 24 hours]: 400 - 800 - 1,600 - 3,200 - 6,400 - 6,900 - 12,800 - 16,000 - 19,200 - 28,000 - 33,600 - 40,000 - 46,800
Thanks AK! It is the same in my D world city so it must be folks trying to make a profit (aren't we all ;)).
 

Shryker

New Member
The "fair trade" button is not a filter. If you post a trade with the button ticked, it simply prefills the trade according to 1:1 for same age, 1:2 for trading up to any higher age, and 2:1 trading down to any lower age. If you're seeing trades that deviate from that then person creating the trade didn't tick the button.
Fair Trade Button? Where?