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Player Age & GE Power Points

DeletedUser41141

Does the age of the player affect the amount of guild power points (crowns) the guild receives from their progress in the GE?

What all affects guild power points affects received from GE?
 

DeletedUser

Does the age of the player affect the amount of guild power points (crowns) the guild receives from their progress in the GE?
Indirectly, yes.
What all affects guild power points affects received from GE?
Although we don't know for sure the exact formula, the number of Expedition Points earned by guild members determines how many Guild Power Points (kudos for knowing/using the correct term) a guild receives. So the more encounters cleared, the more GPP are earned. The higher the era of each player, the higher the number of Expedition Points they will earn from each encounter cleared, which translates into more GPP for the guild.
 

DeletedUser41141

I think this is true:

Guild expedition points make crowns.
Crowns make guild power.
The amount of guild power created by each crown varies.

For us recently:

The amount of guild power created by each crown has dropped since we kicked a late age player who was barely doing the GE.

What determines how much guild power is created by each crown?

Or in other words, does removal of a late age player reduce the value of each crown every other member creates?
 

DeletedUser41141

No, but if that late age player does participate in GE he will accumulate more power than playuers in lower ages.

He barely participated. We removed him. Our amount of guild power created by each crown has dropped. Why has it dropped?
 

DeletedUser41141

Not sure. More than a display in one place error. The math based on that number reflects usage of the number.
 

Emberguard

Well-Known Member
Not sure. More than a display in one place error. The math based on that number reflects usage of the number.
Placing in top 3 for that week increases output.
Also unless you have the same completion rate each time your numbers are going to change.
 

DeletedUser41141

Placing in top 3 for that week increases output.
Also unless you have the same completion rate each time your numbers are going to change.
We definitely didn't place in the top three the week before, so that its not a drop due to dropping out of that. It dropped from 570 to 440.
 

Emberguard

Well-Known Member
Then what was player participation like last week? Did a high Era player not participate this week as much as last week?
 

DeletedUser41141

Then what was player participation like last week? Did a high Era player not participate this week as much as last week?

We had one PE player not play, did 56 the week before. I have a hard time believing it made that big of a difference. We complete 1967 encounters the week before last and dropped to 1912 last week. Could the loss of 56 PE encounters (and PE is our highest age right now) account for going from 570 to 400 guild power per crown?

It seems that kicked the other player (AF) can't have been the issue because he hasn't been gone a whole week to affect our numbers and he only did 11.
 

DeletedUser37581

Over 56 encounters, your PE player probably produced about 118k points. If most other players are of lower age, then that could make a big difference. Also, take note of the progress bar at the top. Crowns are not awarded as points are earned, but in increments as that bar completes. If you hover over the crown to the right of the bar, it will show you how many crowns will be awarded the next time the bar is filled up.

In one of my worlds, we have currently collected 9.4K crowns, and when the bar fills up again, we will get 1,579 additional crowns. Because crowns are awarded in jumps for filling up the bar, a small difference in points earned could mean a large jump in crowns.
 

DeletedUser41141

Over 56 encounters, your PE player probably produced about 118k points. If most other players are of lower age, then that could make a big difference. Also, take note of the progress bar at the top. Crowns are not awarded as points are earned, but in increments as that bar completes. If you hover over the crown to the right of the bar, it will show you how many crowns will be awarded the next time the bar is filled up.

In one of my worlds, we have currently collected 9.4K crowns, and when the bar fills up again, we will get 1,579 additional crowns. Because crowns are awarded in jumps for filling up the bar, a small difference in points earned could mean a large jump in crowns.

So where do we get the data that says how many points are produced by an encounter in each age (yes I know there are a bunch of variables but we should have an idea how much it changes from age to age).
 

DeletedUser37581

The following table shows the base values for each encounter:
Encounter #Base Values
130
240
350
490
552.5
663
773.5
8105
977
1077
1188
12121
1396
1496
1596
16144
17104
18104
19104
20169
21116
22116
23116
24203
25128
26128
27128
28240
29180
30198
31198
32288
33220
34240
35240
36320
37299
38299
39299
40368
41364
42364
43364
44416
45450
46450
47480
48480
49544
50544
51544
52544
53624
54624
55624
56624
57704
58704
59704
60704
61800
62800
63800
64800
The following table shows the multiplier for each age:
(Note: This information was collected before Space Age Mars)
AgeMultiplier
IA1.00
EMA1.35
HMA2.05
LMA3.10
CA4.50
InA6.25
PE8.35
ME10.80
PME13.60
CE16.75
TE20.25
FE24.10
AF28.30
OF32.85
VF37.75
Multiply the base value by the age multiplier. This number (rounded) will be the basic amount of expedition points received for fighting an encounter or for using 10 resources while negotiating. When fighting, there is no adjustment for amount of damage taken.

For negotiating, there is a 10% adjustment for each 6 resources used. For example, if the basic amount is 100 expedition points (for 10 resources), then if 16 resources are used, 110 expedition points will be given. There is no adjustment for number of turns used or expenditure of diamonds.
Because these values were reverse engineered from observed results, the actual amount of expedition points rewarded may be slightly different from the values calculated using these tables. The difference is usually no more than 1 or 2 points.
 

DeletedUser41141

The following table shows the base values for each encounter:
Encounter #Base Values
130
240
350
490
552.5
663
773.5
8105
977
1077
1188
12121
1396
1496
1596
16144
17104
18104
19104
20169
21116
22116
23116
24203
25128
26128
27128
28240
29180
30198
31198
32288
33220
34240
35240
36320
37299
38299
39299
40368
41364
42364
43364
44416
45450
46450
47480
48480
49544
50544
51544
52544
53624
54624
55624
56624
57704
58704
59704
60704
61800
62800
63800
64800
The following table shows the multiplier for each age:
(Note: This information was collected before Space Age Mars)
AgeMultiplier
IA1.00
EMA1.35
HMA2.05
LMA3.10
CA4.50
InA6.25
PE8.35
ME10.80
PME13.60
CE16.75
TE20.25
FE24.10
AF28.30
OF32.85
VF37.75
Multiply the base value by the age multiplier. This number (rounded) will be the basic amount of expedition points received for fighting an encounter or for using 10 resources while negotiating. When fighting, there is no adjustment for amount of damage taken.

For negotiating, there is a 10% adjustment for each 6 resources used. For example, if the basic amount is 100 expedition points (for 10 resources), then if 16 resources are used, 110 expedition points will be given. There is no adjustment for number of turns used or expenditure of diamonds.
Because these values were reverse engineered from observed results, the actual amount of expedition points rewarded may be slightly different from the values calculated using these tables. The difference is usually no more than 1 or 2 points.

Thank you!!!!!!!
 

DeletedUser41141

That was great information, but then I realize it doesn't answer my real question. And I'm discovering that Crowns and Guild Power aren't the same thing, Crowns are a unit of progress toward guild power and the value of the Crown unit varies from week to week. It's that variance that we are trying to understand.

Players make contribution points when they complete GE encounters
Contribution points add up to a Crown
Each crown produce x amount of Guild Power
x varies from week to week.

What determines the value of x?
 

DeletedUser37581

Crowns = Guild Power. What numbers are you looking at? What isn't adding up for you?
 

DeletedUser

Crowns = Guild Power. What numbers are you looking at? What isn't adding up for you?
No, actually he got it right. When he says "Crown", he's talking about the crown symbol in GE with the number next to it. That crown is levels of Guild Power, but it isn't Guild Power itself. When people talk about "Crowns" as the exact same thing as Guild Power Points, it is inaccurate. For example, my guild on V is up to the 16 Crown level, but our Guild Power Points earned is at 4,515.
 

DeletedUser41141

Crowns = x amount of guild power. 1 crown does not = 1 guild power. When a new crown is achieved, then the amount of guild power added isn't 1, it's a variable amount. If you go into GE and hover over the crown with the number in it, a little table pops up. That table tells you how much guild power is granted during the current GE when each crown is achieved. This number changes from week to week. I want to know what determines its value.
 

DeletedUser

I want to know what determines its value.
I would guess it's the ages of the guild members. I have 2 Iron Age cities, and they both are in solo guilds and get 1 Guild Power Point for each Crown level. I have 2 CE cities that are in solo guilds and they both get 53 Guild Power Points per Crown level. And my OF city is in a solo guild and gets 117 Guild Power Points per Crown level. If I remember, I'll check those numbers next week to see if they change.
 
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