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Please Post How Many Goods It Takes You To Negotiate GE

Discussion in 'Tavern' started by sloppyjoeslayer, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. ODragon

    ODragon Well-Known Member

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  2. alkayman

    alkayman Well-Known Member

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    This is my first time using this to track with: will make it easier. I plugged in last weeks GE so I could post it here. I will do this weeks when I finish it (I do all 4 levels myself). Last week was my first week in LMA, so it doesn't look as good as it will this week. But how do I save a different one each week (I am not a very computer literate person when it comes to spread sheets and such)?

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  3. Dursland

    Dursland I am Dursland Forum Moderator

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    Not bad on lv3 but ouch on 4. Hope you at least won good stuff.
     
  4. alkayman

    alkayman Well-Known Member

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    I had bad luck with my guesses. But I did get a 100 FP Relic and 8 Rogues, plus my 6th Terrace Farm. So it worked out good.
     
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  5. Dursland

    Dursland I am Dursland Forum Moderator

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    Overall a great week in GE, won more diamonds/medals than I used and won my first terrace farm!! Also got a good number of relics and fp.

    Fought less this week so ended up spending more goods but I have plenty. Now I can finally consider retiring from GE4 with my terrace farm win. Will depend on goods.

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  6. alkayman

    alkayman Well-Known Member

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    I kept track this week on my paper, then my sweet granddaughter colored her pepre a picturre on it. I can say I fought to GE3, andd fought 6/16 in GE4. I won a SkyWatch for GE4. i am guessing, but I think I used @ 250 medals and maybe 350 LMA oods and 300 HMA goods. But that is a guess, because I left my notepad out where she could get it. I will have better info next week.
     
  7. Dursland

    Dursland I am Dursland Forum Moderator

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    This week I moved up to CE after GE start so I had higher age troops. First time I fought all of lv4. Had to spend diamonds a few times to save them, but made it back in chests.

    Bad week overall on chests/relics but got a tribal square and a terrace farm at the end.

    The extra attempts allowed me to fight all with only two 24h attack boosts.

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  8. alkayman

    alkayman Well-Known Member

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    I had a great week in GE this week. Here are my totals:

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    I almost made it through the entire GE without negotiating: amazing what my Colonial troops can do there. I had alot of good match ups as well, specially in GE3.
     
  9. Dursland

    Dursland I am Dursland Forum Moderator

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    I'd be interested to see what you get from chests in lvl3, mainly the first groups of two before the troop/gold.

    I have gotten coins/supplies 33 out of 36 times in last 3 weeks. (Those numbers don't sound right but it was something like that)
     
  10. sloppyjoeslayer

    sloppyjoeslayer Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what the point would be, people don't believe the numbers anyway, just look at any ToR thread, so what purpose would posting the %'s and the results be.
     
  11. sloppyjoeslayer

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    Really if we want to turn this thread into an all data from GE thread we should post all the reward %'s from all the encounters and all the units and their % boost as well. Then people I guess can decide what they find is useful to them. I just set out to get an idea of how many goods a player needs to negotiate all of GE 1-3 for the benefit of those who negotiate, typically newer players to give them an idea of what they would need to prepare for. I think it's fair to state that is 75/150/300 so if they have 2 goods buildings from their current age and 2 from the previous collecting 24h once a day they should be covered for GE negotiations, good enough for me.
     
  12. Big Daddy Don the 69th

    Big Daddy Don the 69th Member

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    I won a terrace farm as the final reward in lv4 a month ago but won my second as the final reward for lv3 this week, like most others, my guild doesn't have enough people playing lv4 to justify the goods most weeks. I just need a space to put it given all the other stuff rolling in (palace sets, GB's, new production buildings).

    Sloppy, if you're still collecting data, I negotiate my way through GE. I'm not new at it and whether it is luck or just having established a rhythm, the costs are fair compared to the rewards most weeks. I can write down the costs in goods, coins, and supplies or just goods if you still care to know.
     
  13. sloppyjoeslayer

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    Yes, that was the intent behind this post, to show what you spend on negotiations i.e. what GE 1-3 costs to negotiate. While knowing all the other data is fine I'm just trying to get a general feel for what it costs to negotiate all encounters in terms of goods. My ball park estimate is 75 Goods for level 1, 150 Goods for level 2 and 300 Goods for level 3. I believe GE4 may be 800-1000 Goods. Feel free to add to the data set if you like.
     
  14. Dursland

    Dursland I am Dursland Forum Moderator

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    You can roughly calculate what it takes to negotiate GE4 in CE by what I spent doing the one area.

    This was a definite down week for me in GE - spent 5 more diamonds than I got, and the only item of value I'm walking away with this week is victory tower. Even got a renovation kit at the end, but I did need that more than a third terrace farm so that wasn't too bad.

    The deluge of coins/supplies from level 3 continues, but at least in CE I can fight 15 out of 16 on level 4 so that's really cool. Also losing less troops on the first 3 levels. Really like this era! Gonna camp for such a long time.

    This was a lousy week for relics too - only one good one, and none for level 4.

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    Anyway I'm not using goods but I'll keep posting those as the rewards dataset might be useful to someone. Would like to see what others get as well, if people wouldn't mind posting.

    Edit: I ended up using that business center, replacing my junkyard. So there's that lol.
     
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  15. Dursland

    Dursland I am Dursland Forum Moderator

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    Better than last week but still not the best. Did walk away with 100ish diamonds this time, but won a casino at end of lvl3 when there was fountain, 100 diamonds, or 20 fps up for grabs instead. So definitely not good on that chest but picked up a tribal square and a fountain so pretty decent overall. Relics still meh.

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  16. Dursland

    Dursland I am Dursland Forum Moderator

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    Overall good week, walked away with 2 fountains, 2 tribal squares, 100ish diamonds, and a bunch of fp.

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  17. Dursland

    Dursland I am Dursland Forum Moderator

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    Wish more would do those, the data will be invaluable once sample size is big enough for numbers crunching.

    Overall a decent week but some disappointments. More hits on coins/supplies than I would have liked. Had a shot at 2nd skywatch on level 4 but got store building instead. Jade relic was extremely subpar, as were the whites.

    If not for the skywatch on level 3 (and the diamonds) this week would be a wash, although I did get enough medals for my 105k expansion so not bad.

    Took heavier troop losses on level 4 because I refused to pay diamonds to resurrect.

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  18. Dursland

    Dursland I am Dursland Forum Moderator

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    Decent week, nothing really notable except I lost fewer troops this time around. :)

    Lots of extra attempts, that was fun. Blazed through it, could've done first 48 in 24h but was lazy.

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  19. Dursland

    Dursland I am Dursland Forum Moderator

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    Good week, lots of relics and a great prize at the end. Came out ahead on diamonds.

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  20. sloppyjoeslayer

    sloppyjoeslayer Well-Known Member

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    So given this thread is regarding how many goods it takes to negotiate GE I'd thought it worth mentioning again some approximations, results may vary of course depending on skill and luck.

    Level 1: Apx 75 goods, from the previous age
    Level 2: Apx 150 goods, a mix of your current age and previous age
    Level 3: Apx 300 Goods, mostly from your current age (In OF Promethium gets added)
    Level 4: Apx 800-1200 Goods, from current era and previous. (In AF Promethium gets added, in OF Orichalcum gets added as well as Promethium and Medals)

    Total: 1325 - 1725 Goods approximately
    189 - 246 goods per day
    7 - 13 goods buildings collected daily depending on how many collections per day of course
     
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