Suggestions

[Pericles the Lion]

Another way would be to simply give players an option button to see or not see those popups. Inno never seems to think about how to give ALL the players what they want.

An Abraham Lincoln quote about pleasing all of the people all of the time comes to mind. Smart guy that Abe.

 

[planetofthehumans2]

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People cheat because they want something and do not want to work for it. Using your logic, is the solution to students cheating on exams giving them them all an "A"? How about eliminating income taxes in order to prevent people from cheating on their taxes? The solution to cheating is to make the consequences for being caught intolerable. Expel cheating students, jail tax cheats.

Solve it all with AI.

 

[UP ONLINE]

15 WW fragments VS 800 fragments for FOY realy 800 LMAO IT SHOULD BE LOWERED

 

[WillyTwoShoes]

People cheat because they want something and do not want to work for it. Using your logic, is the solution to students cheating on exams giving them them all an "A"? How about eliminating income taxes in order to prevent people from cheating on their taxes? The solution to cheating is to make the consequences for being caught intolerable. Expel cheating students, jail tax cheats.

You do realize he is talking about the incessant clicking that GBG fights require of which a solid majority of players hate? Right? Solving an intrenched problem with the GBG venue as proposed evens the playing field and dries up the real cheaters. It has nothing to do with taxes or student tests.

I'm waiting for any player to post that they enjoy that aspect of the GBG venue.
I can only imagine how that sounds... "I really enjoy sitting for 30-45 minutes while playing foe and clicking my mouse a few thousand times it really adds a lot to my game experience!"
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[xivarmy]

You do realize he is talking about the incessant clicking that GBG fights require of which a solid majority of players hate? Right? Solving an intrenched problem with the GBG venue as proposed evens the playing field and dries up the real cheaters. It has nothing to do with taxes or student tests.

I'm waiting for any player to post that they enjoy that aspect of the GBG venue.
I can only imagine how that sounds... "I really enjoy sitting for 30-45 minutes while playing foe and clicking my mouse a few thousand times it really adds a lot to my game experience!"
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There are people that prize races. And I doubt the disengagement of watching the game bot itself would give them the same satisfaction compared to fighting for seconds with optimizing your clicks.

I'm not one of them though, so you'll have to keep waiting for someone else to come along and say they love repetitive clicking

 

[Ebeondi Asi]

It is fun to race another Guild over a sector.. Particularly like it when it is just one player from the other Guild and me going for it. It is almost thrilling when I win. (My Guilds are big so being alone is a rarity)

 

[Dominator - X]

All the more reason to make them available to everyone in a controlled fashion.
Any time you find people using a particular cheat in your game, you've found a hole that you need to fill with legal game capability.
People don't cheat because they like to cheat. They cheat because they want or need to do something you haven't provided them with ... so provide it!

The scary part is you are being serious.

 

[OakbrookChick]

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People cheat because they want something and do not want to work for it. Using your logic, is the solution to students cheating on exams giving them them all an "A"? How about eliminating income taxes in order to prevent people from cheating on their taxes? The solution to cheating is to make the consequences for being caught intolerable. Expel cheating students, jail tax cheats.

So you equate clicking 1000 times to do a few battles as just "working" for your rewards? You have a sick view of "work". Most likely, that's because you are not able to do things that require thinking, planning, intelligent assessment and play, so the only way you have to succeed is to plug along mindlessly doing what you are told.

Some of us prefer to spend our time on interesting things, planning, devising better ways, solving problems, and stuff that doesn't require tedious stupid nothingness like clicking thousands of times mindlessly.

 

[Pericles the Lion]

How do you get from what I posted: "People cheat because they want something and do not want to work for it. Using your logic, is the solution to students cheating on exams giving them them all an "A"? How about eliminating income taxes in order to prevent people from cheating on their taxes? The solution to cheating is to make the consequences for being caught intolerable. Expel cheating students, jail tax cheats."

To this:

So you equate clicking 1000 times to do a few battles as just "working" for your rewards? You have a sick view of "work". Most likely, that's because you are not able to do things that require thinking, planning, intelligent assessment and play, so the only way you have to succeed is to plug along mindlessly doing what you are told.

Some of us prefer to spend our time on interesting things, planning, devising better ways, solving problems, and stuff that doesn't require tedious stupid nothingness like clicking thousands of times mindlessly.

Recreational pharmaceuticals?

Have you spent all of your diamonds yet? It's long past time for you to move on.

 

[NWWolverine]

Fire every one of your "Idea" people and start over....

 

[The Lady Redneck]

Fire everyone of your "Idea" people and start over....

I think that should be "no idea" people.

 

[GypsyWoman]

There are THREE things this game desperately needs to eliminate the tedious boredom.

1. Visit all open taverns.
2. Replace Units in ALL battle screens (GE,GbG,Campaign Map,Ore Mining,QI,PvP,Neighborhood,Quest,Egypt, and any others I've missed).
3. A "Pin" and "Unpin" to ALL Recurring Quests to avoid using the Abort button 14+ times to reset it to the same (or next pinned) quest each time when it's collected.

These are the absolutely worst boring, tedious, garbage waste of time constant despised stupidities we have to endure.
I am so sick of all of these totally unnecessary repetitious click click click click click click click click click click click click clicks.
I've already decided, if all three of these functions are not in place by the time my current supply of diamonds runs out, I'm leaving the game.

You know, this may sound funny, but all this clicking makes me go through mouse after mouse. They wear out so quickly! It is likely that the price of electronics will rise meaning less money for Inno and their over-priced sale items. I am waiting for Staples to start charging me rent for my stay at the computer mouse displays. LOL

 

[Ebeondi Asi]

You know, this may sound funny, but all this clicking makes me go through mouse after mouse. They wear out so quickly! It is likely that the price of electronics will rise meaning less money for Inno and their over-priced sale items. I am waiting for Staples to start charging me rent for my stay at the computer mouse displays. LOL

I've used a Razer wired 'optical switch' mouse for years.. I play every day four full time Worlds.
It is no-where near being worn out. the best mouse I ever found
Plus I like the free software (to clean my cache LoL )
((though now Microsoft has a good free cleaner too called PC Manager))

 

[GypsyWoman]

All the more reason to make them available to everyone in a controlled fashion.
Any time you find people using a particular cheat in your game, you've found a hole that you need to fill with legal game capability.
People don't cheat because they like to cheat. They cheat because they want or need to do something you haven't provided them with ... so provide it!

I have to disagree with that, Oakbrook. People cheat because they do not want to work for what they desire. What is the point of cheating in a game? The game is not a necessity. It is a "pastime," not something that is required for survival. I would be wary of dealing in real life with anyone who would cheat in a game. Can you imagine how unscrupulous a person like this would be?

 

[WillyTwoShoes]

I have to disagree with that, Oakbrook. People cheat because they do not want to work for what they desire. What is the point of cheating in a game? The game is not a necessity. It is a "pastime," not something that is required for survival. I would be wary of dealing in real life with anyone who would cheat in a game. Can you imagine how unscrupulous a person like this would be?

Not to be persnickety here but....

There are a number of reasons that people use to justify their cheating and I wouldn't get to wrapped up in pointing out any single cause as 'thee' reason for it. It's sufficient to say that cheating for any reason is not acceptable.

However, that being said...

It's pretty naive to show up at knife fight with a switchblade and then boohoo about them cheating when everyone else brings their Uzi's .
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btw: My mice are wearing out faster also!
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[OakbrookChick]

A 6-person convo from my guild. If only someone in Inno would actually pay attention to what players want, this game could be saved.
It's NOT more features and bells and whistles. It's FUN we want, and right now nothing is really honestly FUN any more.

 

[Pericles the Lion]

A 6-person convo from my guild. If only someone in Inno would actually pay attention to what players want, this game could be saved.
It's NOT more features and bells and whistles. It's FUN we want, and right now nothing is really honestly FUN any more.

Pay attention to what? All that you showed was several players bellyaching. No suggestions except "make it fun".

 

[Ebeondi Asi]

A 6-person convo from my guild. If only someone in Inno would actually pay attention to what players want, this game could be saved.
It's NOT more features and bells and whistles. It's FUN we want, and right now nothing is really honestly FUN any more.

I have to agree. The number one problem is too much to do. The more Everything gets more complicated. The less fun it generates. The current number of things to do is pretty much maxxed out.
Which is sad.

 

[JWJWB]

I have to agree. The number one problem is too much to do. The more Everything gets more complicated. The less fun it generates. The current number of things to do is pretty much maxxed out.
Which is sad.

I also agree. INNO doesn't really pay attention to the player's opinions, they just try to make more money. As Ebeondi said, adding more things just makes the game less fun and more complicated. With QI, INNO was just trying to get people to buy even more things, and they aren't even that good.

 

[Johnny B. Goode]

Pay attention to what? All that you showed was several players bellyaching. No suggestions except "make it fun".

I never thought I'd say this, but my suggestion would be to dump GBG and QI and bring back an updated GvG that all users could play and that had maps for all eras. With all its flaws, GvG was way more fun than GBG and QI combined. Players have been seduced by Inno packing those two thing with rewards instead of enjoyment. GE is even more fun than those two for the average player. Yes, I know that all the "top" players/guilds focus on GBG/QI, but that's only because they have to provide opportunities for rewards to keep their members, with the game in its present form. Take away the GBG/QI rewards and make them only about prestige (not Prestige) and you would find many, many players/guilds would quickly stop bothering with them. I don't bother with QI at all, because I play for fun and relaxation and it provides neither. I don't need the QI rewards because my cities produce more than enough resources with just a few of the OP event buildings. I do dabble in low levels of GBG mainly because it can be a source for battles to satisfy DC/event tasks. My dissatisfaction with the game, as I've said before, is that playing it more than very casually is just no fun anymore. Really, instead of foisting QI on us, they should have worked on making GBG more enjoyable for the average player. Now there's too much to do* and very little of it is fun.

*Yes, I know you don't "have to" do everything. We've certainly heard you say that many, many times. But just because it's technically true doesn't mean it's a valid counter to our view of the state of the game.