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DeletedUser27849
The prize wheel does seem disheartening, I guess I just might have to wait until I have all the tickets before I spin. Hate to waste a ticket and get a portrait.
qaccy
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But if a portrait is available on the wheel and you already own it, you can't win it again. Great way to cut the number of spaces you can hit on a wheel down to 8 rather than 9.
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DeletedUser11824
Played through this whole event in Beta and my vote is ..... Enough is enough!!!
Prizes get worse and worse. Who needs 10 new buildings that have to connect and remain connected to produce anything worthwhile, and minimal rewards at that. How many Reno Kits or One-ups to advance these 10 buildings plus the cherry gardens, plus the king/queen garden plus, plus, plus, plus. I checked repeatedly throughout the Beta event. Saw and got one Reno kit one time. It came up once more but even with 5 tries I couldn't get it. I don't need more avatars, coins and supplies.
I've given up playing the mini-events in Beta and live server games. Guess now I'll give up these major events until FoE gives us something decent to play for.
Prizes get worse and worse. Who needs 10 new buildings that have to connect and remain connected to produce anything worthwhile, and minimal rewards at that. How many Reno Kits or One-ups to advance these 10 buildings plus the cherry gardens, plus the king/queen garden plus, plus, plus, plus. I checked repeatedly throughout the Beta event. Saw and got one Reno kit one time. It came up once more but even with 5 tries I couldn't get it. I don't need more avatars, coins and supplies.
I've given up playing the mini-events in Beta and live server games. Guess now I'll give up these major events until FoE gives us something decent to play for.
DeletedUser26120
Ah medal packages are the prizes? That's cool.
I was wondering how I got up to 65,000 and ready for my next expansion lol.
I was wondering how I got up to 65,000 and ready for my next expansion lol.
DeletedUser28126
I don't think everyone gets the 77 medals. Just the ones in your hood who spun the wheel.Is that correct?
DeletedUser
No, it is supposed to be everyone in the neighborhood.
DeletedUser29530
Before the event started, my guildmates who play on beta warned us that this event totally sucks. At first I thought they were full of it, cause I got very lucky in the first hour. I had 4 tickets, and other people cleared the wheel until there were 4 prizes left, a portrait, 5 fp, and 2 event buildings, which I won.
Now as I'm watching the wheel.... what a joke this event is! So for reference, the previous format was you spent tickets to get a 25% chance of a rare prize, and that prize changed daily and you could save all your tickets for prizes you liked/needed. After doing that 4 times, you got a different rare prize, so even when failing, you moved forward.
Well, now your odds are 12% IF the prizes aren't gone. And the prizes are terrible!! For rare prizes (gold rimmed) I've seen garbage like +attack for 8 hours, 20 FP, and a bunch of premium building garbage. I have yet to see a SoK or Rogues Retreat. I'd say 1 out of 10 times, it's been an event building, and I've seen the spinner change about 50 times so far today. Also, instead of building up to get other cool items, you build up collectively to get one of the most worthless things in the game... Medals! Sure they get you expansions, but they're a booby prize given out constantly on GE, and you get tons as a side effect of leveling GBs. As a neighborhood, we'll probably get the same amount of medals from the entire event as I get in one week of GE.
Plus, I've played a number of other freemium games with spinners like this, and I've come to really hate them. Those other games often weighted the prizes, so even though pie sections were equal, you might only have a 1% chance of landing on one space. So I've really associated them with, "Scummy trickery to get people to poor money into premium currency, just like a real casino."
Common Inno, you can do better than that, and if you can't, I'll just quit playing like I did when those other games got greedy.
edit: BTW, what's the point of the beta server if the beta players say something sucks, and inno craps it out anyways?
Now as I'm watching the wheel.... what a joke this event is! So for reference, the previous format was you spent tickets to get a 25% chance of a rare prize, and that prize changed daily and you could save all your tickets for prizes you liked/needed. After doing that 4 times, you got a different rare prize, so even when failing, you moved forward.
Well, now your odds are 12% IF the prizes aren't gone. And the prizes are terrible!! For rare prizes (gold rimmed) I've seen garbage like +attack for 8 hours, 20 FP, and a bunch of premium building garbage. I have yet to see a SoK or Rogues Retreat. I'd say 1 out of 10 times, it's been an event building, and I've seen the spinner change about 50 times so far today. Also, instead of building up to get other cool items, you build up collectively to get one of the most worthless things in the game... Medals! Sure they get you expansions, but they're a booby prize given out constantly on GE, and you get tons as a side effect of leveling GBs. As a neighborhood, we'll probably get the same amount of medals from the entire event as I get in one week of GE.
Plus, I've played a number of other freemium games with spinners like this, and I've come to really hate them. Those other games often weighted the prizes, so even though pie sections were equal, you might only have a 1% chance of landing on one space. So I've really associated them with, "Scummy trickery to get people to poor money into premium currency, just like a real casino."
Common Inno, you can do better than that, and if you can't, I'll just quit playing like I did when those other games got greedy.
edit: BTW, what's the point of the beta server if the beta players say something sucks, and inno craps it out anyways?
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Algona
Well-Known Member
Wrong..
Players can earn 70 Tickets. (not including from the wheel. an additional 11% minimum.) Hood has max 80 Players. Let;s take half of each number. 40 Players, 35 Spins .per player / 77 spins to get the medals. That's about 20 x the Medal prize.
In EMA I'm getting 20 Medals from the Hood Prize. I'm not earning 400 Medals in a week of GE.
In my Contemp World it's 350 Medals. 7,000 Medals from GE?
Complain all you want, Lord know there are things to complain about, but there's no need to make up stuff.
this is one thing INNO changed for the better this year, scaling the Medals by Era.
Another false complaint
While i agree the set piece prizes seem underwhelming, I suspect that your observation about not seeing SoK and RH are due to once the one prize is won folk are flipping the wheel immediately. They aren't gonna last long.
Look up Ylisaveta's post above describing their experience in beta.
DeletedUser26532
What I find really amazing about the complaints from people here and on Beta is this:
If its not the best prize EVZR OFFERED!, its not worth it. That makes no sense. Otherwise, Inno would just make a SOK a 1x1, producing 5 FP a day when motivated, and that would be the only prize ever offered.
The idea of events is to get some prizes. Some will of course be better than others (Rogue Hideouts, SOK, etc), some will be relatively useless (coins, supplies), and some will fall somewhere in the middle (Lord's Manner, most event prizes). That's the nature of things.
While I do agree that the introduction of Silver and Gold circles is a HORRENDOUS idea because it makes the best prizes much harder to come by, the complaints about the prizes varying in quality is ridiculous.
I buy diamonds precisely once per year for the summer event when there's a ticket bonus. By completing the quests that I have been able to and using the bonus from the diamond purchase I spent a total of 54 tickets today. Based on Algona's math, each player should get around 72 free tickets.
So using only about 2/3rds of the free tickets that a person would earn during the event, I have gathered the entire 10 building set with duplicates of 3 pieces (not to mention the 3 pieces you get from quest completions). And while I've gotten some useless prizes (boosts, coins, and unattached rogues), I've also picked up a Bazaar, an Oasis, and age-upgraded King and Queen among other decent ones.
Getting the set is actually very possible for everyone if you want, so is targeting any specific prize you want n a wheel.
Also this prize set is pretty decent. For a total of 56 squares in contemporary I pick up 238,030 coins, 40905 supplies, 176 medals, 10 goods, 7 forge points, and 6790 happiness.
To equate to other special buildings that would require two oasises (24), seven SOK (28), 12 Victory towers (12), and a supply building. And that doesn't add a single happiness. It is in fact a VERY efficient set despite its remarkable size, better than a comparable combination of the best special buildings that are available, and easily possible to obtain with fewer tickets than are awarded for free during the event.
Complaints are very over-blown on this.
If its not the best prize EVZR OFFERED!, its not worth it. That makes no sense. Otherwise, Inno would just make a SOK a 1x1, producing 5 FP a day when motivated, and that would be the only prize ever offered.
The idea of events is to get some prizes. Some will of course be better than others (Rogue Hideouts, SOK, etc), some will be relatively useless (coins, supplies), and some will fall somewhere in the middle (Lord's Manner, most event prizes). That's the nature of things.
While I do agree that the introduction of Silver and Gold circles is a HORRENDOUS idea because it makes the best prizes much harder to come by, the complaints about the prizes varying in quality is ridiculous.
I buy diamonds precisely once per year for the summer event when there's a ticket bonus. By completing the quests that I have been able to and using the bonus from the diamond purchase I spent a total of 54 tickets today. Based on Algona's math, each player should get around 72 free tickets.
So using only about 2/3rds of the free tickets that a person would earn during the event, I have gathered the entire 10 building set with duplicates of 3 pieces (not to mention the 3 pieces you get from quest completions). And while I've gotten some useless prizes (boosts, coins, and unattached rogues), I've also picked up a Bazaar, an Oasis, and age-upgraded King and Queen among other decent ones.
Getting the set is actually very possible for everyone if you want, so is targeting any specific prize you want n a wheel.
Also this prize set is pretty decent. For a total of 56 squares in contemporary I pick up 238,030 coins, 40905 supplies, 176 medals, 10 goods, 7 forge points, and 6790 happiness.
To equate to other special buildings that would require two oasises (24), seven SOK (28), 12 Victory towers (12), and a supply building. And that doesn't add a single happiness. It is in fact a VERY efficient set despite its remarkable size, better than a comparable combination of the best special buildings that are available, and easily possible to obtain with fewer tickets than are awarded for free during the event.
Complaints are very over-blown on this.
DeletedUser
More stuff to plunder, keep those buildings coming
Darth Mole
Well-Known Member
Nice to meet another Sith Lord.
DeletedUser29530
That's 1400 medals at my age, but I'm doubtful that half the players in my neighborhood of 72 are even active players. Don't act like the top of the game represents where i'm at.
LOL, your reading comprehension on this one...
Yeah, except nearly every time I look at the wheel, the rare prize IS gone and nobody has flipped it. But I can see what it is even if greyed out.
DeletedUser29530
I don't care if things are the best prizes ever... but don't put something crappy in a gold "Grand Prize" border, and then be surprised when people think that's a lousy prize.
DeletedUser28855
That was fools gold boarder for some of the spin prizes
DeletedUser24787
That was fools gold boarder for some of the spin prizes
example of a bad gold tier wheel a amazing 20% attack boost
Algona
Well-Known Member
w00t! Completed the first Quest Line in bothe EMA and CE. Would have been 5 hours faster but INNNO threw a curveball and changed one of the Quests, the 8 hour production.
Spent 1 tix in each city ro get rid of BBAOD. That piece of poop back again earns a -.5 rating for the Event
Gonna bide my time for a couple weeks piling up more tix and wait for all the hasty folk to burn through their tix: Speaking of:
Read closer. I also talk about EMA. That's OK, you don't need to bother thinking about the chances, instead come back in 5 days after you've looked at your Event History and share with us how many times you've won the Medals Award from the Hood and jow many Medals you won from GE this week.
Although i can imagine you won;t. It;s much easier to pull dooky outta yer rear then, you know, look for facts.
You brought up the silliness of claiming prizes are weighted in other games. Why do so if you are not insinuating it's rigged (lamergamer) in this game?
Anyway, you can get back to inventing more things to whine about.
Spent 1 tix in each city ro get rid of BBAOD. That piece of poop back again earns a -.5 rating for the Event
Gonna bide my time for a couple weeks piling up more tix and wait for all the hasty folk to burn through their tix: Speaking of:
Read closer. I also talk about EMA. That's OK, you don't need to bother thinking about the chances, instead come back in 5 days after you've looked at your Event History and share with us how many times you've won the Medals Award from the Hood and jow many Medals you won from GE this week.
Although i can imagine you won;t. It;s much easier to pull dooky outta yer rear then, you know, look for facts.
You brought up the silliness of claiming prizes are weighted in other games. Why do so if you are not insinuating it's rigged (lamergamer) in this game?
Anyway, you can get back to inventing more things to whine about.
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DeletedUser27889
Does anyone know if HoF came up at all in beta?
My opinion on this event mirrors pretty much everyone elses. Reduction in chances of good prizes is never good. These set buildings are far too large and played out already. Also I think they have realized that they can make all the corresponding pieces of a set worse and worse with only one piece being worthwhile, but they know you have to get the worthless pieces to make the main piece decent so you'll go for them.
I decided to go for the palace in one world just because they give 3 of those pieces as part of the quests but I don't know if I will build them. If they wanted to garner more interest they would have given one piece from each set but oh well missed opportunity on their part.
I'm really sick of these boost potion things. At least with coins/supplies you got coins and supplies and if you had one of your recuring quests going it could work out for you. Somehow they took one of the biggest complaints, less coins/supplies and made something even less valuable. An opportunity to earn more coins and supplies at a later date. Kinda like in GE people asked for less decos so they countered by giving out less valuable decos twice as often...
I really like the two separate quest lines and that they are giving two pieces away for those that do decide to collect them. Town hall ticket makes a huge improvement from beta.
Their willingness to provide alternatives to quests requiring game progression is another huge win. You can now play the game in non event times without always feeling you need to save something for the next event.
I really like events and though the chances have been reduced here to me this is nothing as bad as that Venice Carnival cash grab a few months ago.
My opinion on this event mirrors pretty much everyone elses. Reduction in chances of good prizes is never good. These set buildings are far too large and played out already. Also I think they have realized that they can make all the corresponding pieces of a set worse and worse with only one piece being worthwhile, but they know you have to get the worthless pieces to make the main piece decent so you'll go for them.
I decided to go for the palace in one world just because they give 3 of those pieces as part of the quests but I don't know if I will build them. If they wanted to garner more interest they would have given one piece from each set but oh well missed opportunity on their part.
I'm really sick of these boost potion things. At least with coins/supplies you got coins and supplies and if you had one of your recuring quests going it could work out for you. Somehow they took one of the biggest complaints, less coins/supplies and made something even less valuable. An opportunity to earn more coins and supplies at a later date. Kinda like in GE people asked for less decos so they countered by giving out less valuable decos twice as often...
I really like the two separate quest lines and that they are giving two pieces away for those that do decide to collect them. Town hall ticket makes a huge improvement from beta.
Their willingness to provide alternatives to quests requiring game progression is another huge win. You can now play the game in non event times without always feeling you need to save something for the next event.
I really like events and though the chances have been reduced here to me this is nothing as bad as that Venice Carnival cash grab a few months ago.
Zatrikon
Well-Known Member
It seems to me these sets are about worth the space they take - but only if you get a complete set. That last palace piece gives you 5 FP! With only 4 out of 5 pieces, you get 1 FP. Likewise with the elephant fountain - you don't get the attack bonus until you get the very last piece.
If I don't get the whole set, they'll languish in my inventory perhaps forever. It might be nice it they'd repeat some of these sets sometime, like maybe next year, giving a chance to complete a set that you didn't get to complete the previous time.
If I don't get the whole set, they'll languish in my inventory perhaps forever. It might be nice it they'd repeat some of these sets sometime, like maybe next year, giving a chance to complete a set that you didn't get to complete the previous time.