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Same problem here. What proved effective was a comparison of GB cost vs. method for self levelling, swap lists and 1.9. Also we needed a bit of time for everyone to become familiar with it. I think 1.9 is now firmly established, though the swaps remain popular with low level players and it took a few months. It seems clear that pretty much everyone who has levelled a arc to 80 is sold on the 1.9 list, and thinks swaps are stupid, except for a few usages. A comparison:
The rewards term is not totally the same. For the swapper case it is the average reward for all the GBs you invest in while levelling up your GB, whereas in the 1.9 case the rewards term is the rewards from your own GB. We can guess these will be pretty comparable terms for the average GB. If your arc is nearly level 80, this difference may be important. For the vast unwashed masses with little to no arc, the arc 80 advantage should make the 1.9 list a clear win. That should be enough to get the math heads on board.
I personally don’t buy the FP pack argument made by swappers. You don’t need FP packs for the self funded portion of the 1.9 list, which is the part they would be doing. You also don’t need packs to get GB goods. Just find a supplier who is a little patient. Same goes for tech, etc. Your really only need packs to be a 1.9 Donor, and that shouldn’t be attempted until the arc is big. At that point dumping daily production or coins into 1.9 donations should reasonably quickly create a FP pack stockpile. Until that point, it isn’t needed.
Players do need BPs. One method is to encourage senior donors to stop funding positions 4 and 5 on GBs in the 1.9 list. Leave them for the little guys. They are the cheapest way for them to buy BPs. That worked well for us. Often these go for competitive auction.The other thing you can do is talk to the little guys about maybe buying the occasional 3rd place. Yes, it is expensive, but probably not more so than the swaps. Having a 1.9 list in a guild tends to set prices at 1.9 levels whether or not the GB was actually advertised in the 1.9 list. If that is the case, then swappers are probably generally paying more because their ability to control how much they bid is curtailed placing the, at a disadvantage. 1.9 prices might be cheaper than what they’d get otherwise.
It’s nice to get medals too. If you want a ton of medals, just level up your arc. The 1.9 list isn’t the problem there.
- Start with self levelling as the base method, which nobody does. The cost is GB Total cost. Very expensive.
- Next we try swaps. The cost to level you GB that way is still the total cost of the GB. The only difference is we get back some rewards at your arc level. So the net cost is Total GB cost - rewards * your arc bonus.
- Finally, we try a 1.9 list. In this case, the cost will be Total GB cost - rewards * level 80 arc bonus.
The rewards term is not totally the same. For the swapper case it is the average reward for all the GBs you invest in while levelling up your GB, whereas in the 1.9 case the rewards term is the rewards from your own GB. We can guess these will be pretty comparable terms for the average GB. If your arc is nearly level 80, this difference may be important. For the vast unwashed masses with little to no arc, the arc 80 advantage should make the 1.9 list a clear win. That should be enough to get the math heads on board.
I personally don’t buy the FP pack argument made by swappers. You don’t need FP packs for the self funded portion of the 1.9 list, which is the part they would be doing. You also don’t need packs to get GB goods. Just find a supplier who is a little patient. Same goes for tech, etc. Your really only need packs to be a 1.9 Donor, and that shouldn’t be attempted until the arc is big. At that point dumping daily production or coins into 1.9 donations should reasonably quickly create a FP pack stockpile. Until that point, it isn’t needed.
Players do need BPs. One method is to encourage senior donors to stop funding positions 4 and 5 on GBs in the 1.9 list. Leave them for the little guys. They are the cheapest way for them to buy BPs. That worked well for us. Often these go for competitive auction.The other thing you can do is talk to the little guys about maybe buying the occasional 3rd place. Yes, it is expensive, but probably not more so than the swaps. Having a 1.9 list in a guild tends to set prices at 1.9 levels whether or not the GB was actually advertised in the 1.9 list. If that is the case, then swappers are probably generally paying more because their ability to control how much they bid is curtailed placing the, at a disadvantage. 1.9 prices might be cheaper than what they’d get otherwise.
It’s nice to get medals too. If you want a ton of medals, just level up your arc. The 1.9 list isn’t the problem there.
