Grumblenuts
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I know what I'm talking about. Can't speak for you so I try very hard not to.Neither of us know what the hell we're talking about. So what does this prove?
Must be off in left field again talking about the weather instead if climate change.Sometimes the weather for a particular day is markedly different than it was for decades. Must have left my car running I guess...
I am very certain that climate scientists the world over agree on climate change to a surprising, likely unprecedented, extent; yet all it takes is a relative few oil soaked billionaires like the Kochs, tossing a million here, ten million there, to get people like you to protect their bottom line, come hell or high water.You are very certain that the scientists of the world are correct.
Neither do actual scientists. What have you been imagining scientific method is about? One should never waste their time seeking absolute proof or certainty when it comes to nature. What we should seek is reproducible results from repeated testing done by as many as possible, given clear, simple instructions. Finding out what works and reliably so. Holes discovered in theories invite further investigation, refinements, new theories. That's all we've got. All we've ever had.I believe their certainty does not qualify as proof. That there are always certainties pushed by all sorts of accredited individuals and organizations that turn out to be false in the future. You double-take and look back and realize you didn't really understand or seek actual proof, you just believed in correlations, suggestions, in the direness and/or enthusiasm of the message, and the constant push of a particular idea over others while seeking to avoid the ridicule and insults that people- like yourself- would use to bludgeon people into complicity should they disagree with the "obvious truth".
Very good. But history also tends to repeat itself. Paying attention to it works. Not always. Reliably. Within reason. The Earth will spin toward the Sun again tomorrow, Bet your bottom dollar. Now, once again, why do feel the ice core data's clear indication is suddenly so wrong now? What's your counter theory explaining our recent record growth in global temperature? Who would you go to first for related expertise if not a climate scientist?Oh, and ice cores do not tell you why climate has changed, only that climate has changed., as it has been doing for millions of years. Correlation is not causation.
Wtf?There's a lot of things threatening the stability of the environment. However, the state, the media, and scientists seem to be awfully choosey about what to cry about. Drilling oil in the oceans? Fracking? Deforestation? The destabilizing effects of homogenization of our food supply through genetic structuring? The effects of the poisonous air hovering above a number of the most densely populated cities on earth? Completely fine.