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Which do you support most and why? (Select 1 or more)

Discussion in 'Debate Hall' started by Lucifer1904, Feb 14, 2017.

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  1. Lucifer1904

    Lucifer1904 Well-Known Member

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    Exatly. If so many people kill others with guns then it would make sense that some of those people had used said guns to protect others. If guns were not allowed people would still find another way to kill people. There is truly no way t stop the killing. Are you going to take away pencils, guns, cars, grenades, Toothpicks?
    Also here are some facts for you:
    The cold in Russia is no joke. Icicles kill 100 people every year.
    In the U.S., 6,000 people die because of texting while driving.
    hose innocent looking stairs you take every day are linked to the deaths of 12,000 people ever year
    Candles cause 15,000 house fires each year.

    Source - http://www.viralnova.com/25-dangerous-everyday-things/


    See Just taking away guns is not going to stop th deaths of innocent people. If someone wanted to they could hit someone in the throat and kill them so taking away guns will not stop the deaths by people.


     
  2. zotbot

    zotbot Active Member

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    No, technically there are causal chains and every element of the chain is in part responsible.
     
  3. Konrad the mediocre

    Konrad the mediocre Well-Known Member

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    Who is taking your guns away?
     
  4. zotbot

    zotbot Active Member

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    Strawmanning is dishonest, bad faith, and ethically corrupt. Try a different tack.
     
  5. jaelis

    jaelis Well-Known Member

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    Johnny Cash took my guns to town.
     
  6. Lucifer1904

    Lucifer1904 Well-Known Member

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  7. zotbot

    zotbot Active Member

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    Please stop prevaricating, dissembling, and being mendacious.
     
  8. Lucifer1904

    Lucifer1904 Well-Known Member

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    I am not a liar do the research yourself.
     
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  9. zotbot

    zotbot Active Member

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    Donald Trump lies about not being a liar, and lashes out with hostile and misogynistic language. I guess it's national policy now.
     
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  10. Lucifer1904

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  11. Konrad the mediocre

    Konrad the mediocre Well-Known Member

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    I looked at the first group on the list and they are not advocating the taking of all guns from civilians.
     
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  12. Lucifer1904

    Lucifer1904 Well-Known Member

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    That is one group. Not 48
     
  13. Konrad the mediocre

    Konrad the mediocre Well-Known Member

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    It is your claim and your list.
     
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  15. Lucifer1904

    Lucifer1904 Well-Known Member

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    You have only seen a few of them. Have you even put in any effort at all to check on other organizations besides those? No. So come back with an argument when you have facts to back you up. The only who has been providing facts here is me. I will gladly look at your side when you present me with facts until then you are just someone who thinks they know everything. Have a nice day.
     
  16. zotbot

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    BTW, as for lying, that was firmly established in regard to guns and coconuts. It won't do to change the subject and say "hey, look, here's something I'm not pathetically dishonest about" ... especially when it's just another example of being so.

    Oh, well, this is like shooting fish in a barrel and isn't worth the effort. Like I said, it's your reputation, which you have trashed. Bye now.
     
  17. Konrad the mediocre

    Konrad the mediocre Well-Known Member

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    Like I said it's your claim and your list so the research is your responsibility and I'm not going to waste my time when you obviously didn't do a very good job of it.
     
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  18. Lucifer1904

    Lucifer1904 Well-Known Member

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    HA. If you have no facts to argue with then what is the point of even trying to debate this. Like I said when you present me with your facts then I will gladly look at your point of view on this.
     
  19. Konrad the mediocre

    Konrad the mediocre Well-Known Member

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    I never made a claim. What facts do you want me to argue with? Do you not understand how debates work?
     
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  20. jaelis

    jaelis Well-Known Member

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    Actually I have iron-clad proof that no one in the world wants to take your gun away:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=gun
    Just keep paging down, you'll find it.
     
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