DeletedUser26154
It changes as you progress forward in Eras.
Until you get to Arctic Future.
Everything changes once you enter the world of Unrefined Goods.
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It changes as you progress forward in Eras.
Until you get to Arctic Future.
Everything changes once you enter the world of Unrefined Goods.
DeletedUser
And that's my point also.
DeletedUser26154
The way the game works before Colonial Age, and after Colonial Age, are different.
One doesn't notice until they cross the thresh hold.
DeletedUser13838
Yes. It's OK to delete GBs after they've outilived their usefulness. It's hard though. I really should delete my RAH but I'm not sure I have it in me.
ITown
Well-Known Member
You can easily find a trade of 1000 FPs for 2000 Arctic goods. Then 80 FPs to get it to level 1.
Then you have a GB which is actually useful. ND/Colo/Needle are not.
Let's look at what 1080 FPs gets you:
Level 6.5 Colosseum (2200 happiness, 17 medals). GB uses 42 tiles.
Level 6 Notre Dame (2300 happiness, 3680 supplies). GB uses 24 tiles.
Level 5 Space Needle (2000 Happiness, 24,000 coins). GB uses 30 tiles.
Level 1 Gaea Statue (4000 Happiness, 127 medals). GB uses 24 tiles.
This, of course, is the best case scenario, where you have a sugar daddy who just hands you 1750 free ME goods (or 750 HMA, or 300 IA).
In fact, Gaea statue is so much better that a level 10 Colosseum (2720 FP) is still worse than a level 1 Gaea. As is a level 10 Notre Dame (3180 FP) or a level 9 space needle (3430 FP).
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DeletedUser
I dont remember having 1000 FPs laying around in early eras.
ITown
Well-Known Member
Then you don't have the FPs to build & level Colosseum, Notre Dame, or Space Needle either.
DeletedUser
Anytime someone says, "you can easily", I just laugh.
DeletedUser29295
Yet again, you are only including PART of what I was responding to.
THIS ^^^^^^
Is why I said THIS ^^^^^^
If you read my posts, you would see I NEVER advocate building those GB's. I was answeriing Stephen, agreeing with what he was saying when he said he would build every GB he had room for. IN THIS SITUATION, I feel that every GB can be useful. THAT was the context, Algona. I was not advocating for building the Col or any other of the GB's that are deemed worthless.
Maybe next time you can read the entire exchange, or you can ask for clairfication instead of jumping to conclusions.
DeletedUser29295
I don't have 1k laying around now: I go through them like a coffee.
ITown
Well-Known Member
If you play on Fel-Dranghyr, you can find that offer by messaging me in game.
DeletedUser
So on 1 of the 23 (soon to be 24) US servers, "you can easily".
Algona
Well-Known Member
My EMA city is buying Arc Goods now. 1/3 paid in 3 days, I still have 300 FP in Inventory, I'll be padi odd max 15 more days, and I', betting on 10 with an average couple of GEs.
Yes. Yes I did. And you responded the same as well with irrelevant dooky. Wanna go for another loop? Here's the lob:
In this thread as long as whatever follows "I am of the mind that every GB can be useful. " is anything but an explicit statement that new players should never build Col or ND then you are misleading new players.
Sorry Stephen, make it 3 of soon to be 24. Add MK and Rugnir. It took me a half day to find a 900 FP seller in Rugnir In MK my Guildies are putting up an Arc every 2 weeks, and not one of us is a supplier of Future Goods. Last Summer it took me three tries to get Arc Goods in MK, my first two dealers wonked out. Not cheating, just bad luck: they both left the game before the deal was done.
ITown really does do a good job of analyzing the situation.
Whereas folk like snake and alkay are misleading new players.
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DeletedUser29295
OK, Mr. King of this thread. An answer to another player about a specific statement is misleading new players. Your as wonked as you are accusing me of. But I shall bow to you, oh great one who sees and knows all, and can read minds as well as read into simple posts without the regard of anything else the poster has stated about specific GB's in this thread.
You can blather all you want to about this: however my answer to Stephen still stands for what we were discussing. When you take words or statements out of context to make yourself feel like you know everything, it is a sad day.
Algona
Well-Known Member
Touche! I am mortally skewered by your rapier like savage wit.
Which is fine.
You've helped new posters know what an ass I am: a public service I think. I 'll bet helping new players is a lot more satisfying then misleading them, huh?
Meanwhile, on topic. ND and Col should never be built no matter what alkay says. Or implies.
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DeletedUser
With all due respect Algona, your EMA city has the wisdom and experience of your previous cities. If I started out again I know I'd do things different as the game keeps changing and introducing new resources, buildings and units.
Just saying at the time and with not many options a few of the so called "not useful" GB had a little value.
Go in your garage and pull out that CB radio or 8 track cassette player that was a must have back in the day
Algona
Well-Known Member
Wasn't my wisdom; blame Glarg. I used his fast start technique on this city combined with extended time Guild Hopping to garner a lot of Inv FPs and BPs, including I think 4 or 5 Traz BPs in the first two weeks.
Glarg's technique works to the point where new players who use it can be faced with their first GB decision in days. If you get the full set of Babel BPs first do you build it even though a lot opf good players don't like Babel? Or wait for the Zeus? I could argue either way, there's good reasons to do either. Iit;s a no brainer for me, build the Babel, not only because I like it as a GB but mainly it gives you that much needed FP dump to extend time in BA.
I think that is a valid case to illustrate your point: that there is a place for most GBs (never Col or ND!) even if you know it's gonna be temporary.
I also think that an experienced player should take the time to explain to newer players that there are much more efficient options then just throwing up random.GBs as fast as possible.
DeletedUser26154
DeletedUser
The same could be said of before/after Progressive Era with 2 lane roads, before/after Modern Era with its unrefined goods requirement, and before/after PME with its military units that return fire when hit. And of a lot of other eras.