Guild Expedition reward shortcomings

[DeletedUser11463]

I believe they already reduced the percentages of extra attempts. When they first came out, I was getting boatloads every time. Now I get them less often. I too find them acceptable when negotiating because I can do the 15 minute extra turn boost and get in more than 8 plays. I'd be ok with lowering the percentage further but keeping them where they are. But getting rid of them totally helps a few people who don't like them and hurts everyone that does like them.

 

[DeletedUser13838]

"Removed completely"? No.

But I would not be surprised- one little bit- if the reward determination logarithm has been....'adjusted'...to make certain rewards within a general reward type (Common, Uncommon or Rare) more scarce than others.

Inno already said they sllightly reduced the chance at gettng them. My experience is that if it was changed, it was a small change. I don't think it's the logarithm of the previous chance though.

 

[DeletedUser26120]

I encourage everyone to get actual data on this out there, in case anybody who makes those decisions happens to look here one day. If we want to complain about the rewards then let's prove they really do need spicing up!

I've been tracking my GE progress for the past few weeks, it is simple and quick using google spreadsheets. You can do it yourself by logging into gmail/google (make an account if you don't have one, it is quick) then go here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16N0ZKdSra0w79HZPB5dTsafghiIOLAIfmM1WBHhhrr0/edit#gid=0

Click File > Make a Copy and make your own copy to edit. Then you can share the spreadsheet or take a screenshot and post it as I do. Here are the past few weeks, and I will post future weeks here:

06/27 http://i.imgur.com/j7bhEJm.jpg
07/04 http://i.imgur.com/U01rJQj.jpg
07/11 http://i.imgur.com/O2qmOmZ.jpg
07/18 http://i.imgur.com/WfpPIzY.jpg
07/25 http://i.imgur.com/K76nVhS.jpg
08/01 http://i.imgur.com/rhAL2Cd.jpg
08/08 http://i.imgur.com/oMhY4nB.jpg
08/15 http://i.imgur.com/BcoCybY.jpg
08/22 http://i.imgur.com/GTEAVr8.jpg
08/29 http://i.imgur.com/pLVBvdp.jpg

 

[DeletedUser27849]

Yes, got a gate of sun and then hit for 2 face's literally back to back. Thank you so much.

 

[Mustapha00]

I have gotten several of them as has other members of my guild

I suppose I should have added "Your Results May Vary".

Before about a month ago, I had not gotten a Jade Relic since the third week GE went live. No, I don't have super-high-level ToR, but all that time of regular GE participation and not a single Jade, while obviously possible, seems...odd, I guess.

Now Gold Relics I hit pretty much every week. I haven't gotten the 100 FP one in about three months. However, I have hit the 200 Goods and 10 Rogues enough times that I want to pull my hair out with a pair of needlenose pliers.

 

[wolfhoundtoo]

I suppose I should have added "Your Results May Vary".

Before about a month ago, I had not gotten a Jade Relic since the third week GE went live. No, I don't have super-high-level ToR, but all that time of regular GE participation and not a single Jade, while obviously possible, seems...odd, I guess.

Now Gold Relics I hit pretty much every week. I haven't gotten the 100 FP one in about three months. However, I have hit the 200 Goods and 10 Rogues enough times that I want to pull my hair out with a pair of needlenose pliers.

that's the nature of random rewards.

 

[52 Blue]

I encourage everyone to get actual data on this out there, in case anybody who makes those decisions happens to look here one day. If we want to complain about the rewards then let's prove they really do need spicing up!

This is my 1st spreadsheet ever so bear with me the results are lame at best (hope my math is correct)

 

[52 Blue]

Now that you get achievement awards for relics Inno "can see" the pathetic shortcomings on relics after spawning, in 6 months they have not met the minimum spawn in my city, not once .... most illogical

 

[DeletedUser]

Now that you get achievement awards for relics Inno "can see" the pathetic shortcomings on relics after spawning, in 6 months they have not met the minimum spawn in my city,View attachment 8666 not once .... most illogical

I'm guessing that you're complaining about relics here, but this post makes little sense.

 

[DeletedUser26965]

I'm guessing that you're complaining about relics here, but this post makes little sense.

I think he means to say that because they have achievements now showing you how many relics you get that somehow this will reveal the "truth" about the relic drop rate as being not what they state as further supported by his six months worth of data which apparently is not shown here, instead we get a picture of Spock as evidence of this.

I deleted my ToR a long time ago so I won't get said achievements.

 

[DeletedUser]

I think he means to say that because they have achievements now showing you how many relics you get that somehow this will reveal the "truth" about the relic drop rate as being not what they state as further supported by his six months worth of data which apparently is not shown here, instead we get a picture of Spock as evidence of this.

I deleted my ToR a long time ago so I won't get said achievements.

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Thank you for the translation!

 

[52 Blue]

shouldnt need translation its kinda right there in your face like slop explained ,tho doing 6 months of spreads for you guys to see would be a huge waste of time as you dont really matter and Inno is not watching so it is just a rant kinda all the forum is good for really unless i want to come read what you permanent hangers have to say with your infinite wisdom i threw a spock in there to keep the conversation on the light side like others do so some of you dont get your panties in a bunch and report me for being mean hahaha

 

[DeletedUser11463]

Generally, on the very few occasions I get the jade relic it has been a store building. Not what I would consider all that rare or special. I would prefer the 100 FP's or the 100 goods. Not sure why the 100 goods is so bad. Seems like we have to spend many of them when advancing our tech and unless you want a city full of goods buildings or you plunder constantly, 100 goods seems like a darn good reward to me. For jade relics tho, it might be nice to get 100 promethium or 100 orichalcum, or some diamonds or something better than a store building. I've come to actually regret see a jade because it's never given me anything good.

 

[qaccy]

@Big-Bendz
Just to nitpick a bit, there are no relics that give 100 goods. It's either 20 or 200.

Regarding jade relics, just like everything else with random rewards, there's a low end and a high end for prizes. I personally only have interest in Terrace Farms from them, but I can see just about everything in there being useful to somebody to some degree, even if each prize doesn't have equal value to the same person.

 

[DeletedUser26120]

It's either 20 or 200.

25, not 20.

 

[DeletedUser27184]

I think that GE should be considered in the long term run. I farm GE up to level 4 for some 8 months now. Over that time I got 7 terraces and about 10 SSW. Add to it tons of FP's from the rewards (and the TOR), goods and everything. It helped my city a lot. And my Arc is a happy Arc due to it.
What did it cost me beside time? Practically nothing. With the Traz and Rogue Hideout its a free win.
Yes, I got about 70 Faces and Gates. So what, they can sit and enjoy each other in my bags.
And yes, it took months. Well, this game takes years. Over the long run, the GE is worth it. In any single week/month it may fluctuate.

 

[DeletedUser11463]

@Big-Bendz
Just to nitpick a bit, there are no relics that give 100 goods. It's either 20 or 200.

Regarding jade relics, just like everything else with random rewards, there's a low end and a high end for prizes. I personally only have interest in Terrace Farms from them, but I can see just about everything in there being useful to somebody to some degree, even if each prize doesn't have equal value to the same person.

Oops my bad. But yeah what's wrong with 200 goods??? I'd rather have that than a store building. Seems the gold prizes are better than the jade prizes.

 

[DeletedUser5493]

I get one more gate of the sun god or face of the ancients i'll be ready for the rubber room.

 

[Graviton]

This is the third thread in which you've expressed the same thing; you even felt it was important enough to necro this one. I respectfully disagree, those things are useful.

 

[DeletedUser29623]

I really like the attempts, especially since the alternative prizes are almost always coins or supplies, which I don’t need. I negotiate all 4 levels every week, so it saves a lot of tavern silver. As I see it, most encounters are just something I have to get through to get to L3 and especially L4, where I can win FPs and diamonds. The faster I can get there, the better.