Algona
Well-Known Member
Participation, Size, and Quality of players are the three factors that will determine a Guild's success in GBG.
A shortage of any of these will put a Guild at a serious disadvantage.
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Because of attrition Quality of players is the least important of the factors but is still important. My startup city, 5 months old in IA, is able to do about 25 Advancements a day. That's a quarter of the amount players with 200 times my RP and years more time building their city are doing.
Is Size or Participation the more important factor? I see them as coequal pending meaningful evidence. I suspect there will a lot of debate over that question for a long time.
By interesting happenstance each of my three worlds demonstrate the importance of each factor:
A footnote:
I started writing this post to refute this post:
But writing the above showed me SL has the right of it except for one minor point. It's not the individual player that matters, it's the totality of the Guild.
Quality, Participation, Size. The Guilds who excel at all three will be fighting up in Diamond, while those who don't will still be able to make of GBG what they want.
A shortage of any of these will put a Guild at a serious disadvantage.
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Because of attrition Quality of players is the least important of the factors but is still important. My startup city, 5 months old in IA, is able to do about 25 Advancements a day. That's a quarter of the amount players with 200 times my RP and years more time building their city are doing.
Is Size or Participation the more important factor? I see them as coequal pending meaningful evidence. I suspect there will a lot of debate over that question for a long time.
By interesting happenstance each of my three worlds demonstrate the importance of each factor:
Startup world 8 Guilds, 80, 80, 80, 80, 79, 63, 47, 46.
The Guild with 63 players has significantly more higher rated players then the other Guilds. Guess which Guild is doing best?
My experimental city 6 Guilds 59,51, 45, 45, 29, 27. The Guild with 27 players has significantly more higher rated players then the other Guilds. Guess which Guild is doing best?
My main city: 8 Guilds 6 with 70+ members, 59, and 57.
No spoiler here, this is a bruital League with 5 of the top 10 Guilds in the world and dozens of 100+ Meg RP players. 1 Guild has 75K points, 5 have between 23 and 27 K points, 1 has 17K 1 has 8K points.
The 4 and 6 ranked Guilds are the Guilds with 57 and 59 members
This has been a lot of fun to play. I joined GBG 90 minutes after launch, the entire map had been taken. The team in the lead was dominating the map early on but there has been a lot of back and forth with various teams dominating the map at various times, Province Buildings constantly being built and torn down, and slowly cutting into what I thought was an insurmountable lead.
With a week to go it could be an interesting race. I can't wait to see some serious diplomacy. By diplomacy I mean back room deals and sneak attacks and betrayals and backstabbing and treachery...
This League is the perfect balance of Size, Quality, Participation. I expect it is what Diamond Leagues will look like when the dust settles down.
The Guild with 63 players has significantly more higher rated players then the other Guilds. Guess which Guild is doing best?
5 Guild with no additional Provinces and have accumulated 0, zip, nada, no Points between them Members? 80, 80, 80, 80, 79.
The Guild with 4 Provinces has 46 members, My Guild has 9 Provinces and 63 players. The 47 member Guild has 35 Provinces.
A clear case of Participation being the dominant factor while Quality is a minor factor and Size has no bearing on the outcome.
The Guild with 4 Provinces has 46 members, My Guild has 9 Provinces and 63 players. The 47 member Guild has 35 Provinces.
A clear case of Participation being the dominant factor while Quality is a minor factor and Size has no bearing on the outcome.
My experimental city 6 Guilds 59,51, 45, 45, 29, 27. The Guild with 27 players has significantly more higher rated players then the other Guilds. Guess which Guild is doing best?
# of members amd current Points 27 77K. 51 72K, 29 25K, 45 18K, 45 9K, 59 1K.
A clear case of Quality and Pparticipation dominating while Size doesn't seem to be significant.
A clear case of Quality and Pparticipation dominating while Size doesn't seem to be significant.
My main city: 8 Guilds 6 with 70+ members, 59, and 57.
No spoiler here, this is a bruital League with 5 of the top 10 Guilds in the world and dozens of 100+ Meg RP players. 1 Guild has 75K points, 5 have between 23 and 27 K points, 1 has 17K 1 has 8K points.
The 4 and 6 ranked Guilds are the Guilds with 57 and 59 members
This has been a lot of fun to play. I joined GBG 90 minutes after launch, the entire map had been taken. The team in the lead was dominating the map early on but there has been a lot of back and forth with various teams dominating the map at various times, Province Buildings constantly being built and torn down, and slowly cutting into what I thought was an insurmountable lead.
With a week to go it could be an interesting race. I can't wait to see some serious diplomacy. By diplomacy I mean back room deals and sneak attacks and betrayals and backstabbing and treachery...
This League is the perfect balance of Size, Quality, Participation. I expect it is what Diamond Leagues will look like when the dust settles down.
A footnote:
I started writing this post to refute this post:
It's not about winning or losing, it's about being worthwhile. GE is worthwhile because if your guild is active, no matter the size, it benefits both the player and the guild. Seems to me that GBG is going to fail to live up to that. It is geared towards the players with hyper-leveled GBs, just like most of the game anymore. And that sucks. Because if you don't choose to adopt the hyper-leveling playstyle, you're out in the cold for too many of the game features. All of which comes back to the Arc. Again.
But writing the above showed me SL has the right of it except for one minor point. It's not the individual player that matters, it's the totality of the Guild.
Quality, Participation, Size. The Guilds who excel at all three will be fighting up in Diamond, while those who don't will still be able to make of GBG what they want.
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