Mustapha00
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...to believing in deities they cannot see, hear, or feel.
If you are fine with believing your existence, as well as that of everything around you, is an accident, nothing I can say will convince you otherwise.
...to believing in deities they cannot see, hear, or feel.
If you are fine with believing your existence, as well as that of everything around you, is an accident, nothing I can say will convince you otherwise.
Nobody's opinions are entirely their own unless they were born in an opaque, sound-proof bubble, and remain there for their entire life, cut off from all external input.
You really missed the point here, or perhaps chose to ignore the point and manufactured one of your own. So to be clear, I'll spell it out to you. Between 80% and 90% of viewers who'd seen those videos are in favor of equal rights for all, rather than just for heterosexuals. Granted, it's just youtube viewers, but youtube is worldwide, except in the more authoritarian areas. The sample size is certainly large enough to consider it a reflection on world opinion. You're the lunatic fringe, Mustapha00. Proven.
I wouldn't consider youtube users representative of the general population of anything but youtube users.
What? First, how is that related to your assertion that children lack the ability to make rational, informed decisions? Second, I haven't asked you to convince me of anything.
Nothing in physics suggests that existence is due to an accident. In fact it can't be an "accident" in the sense you seem to be using the term.
Nobody's opinions are entirely their own unless they were born in an opaque, sound-proof bubble, and remain there for their entire life, cut off from all external input.
You really missed the point here, or perhaps chose to ignore the point and manufactured one of your own. So to be clear, I'll spell it out to you. Between 80% and 90% of viewers who'd seen those videos are in favor of equal rights for all, rather than just for heterosexuals. Granted, it's just youtube viewers, but youtube is worldwide, except in the more authoritarian areas. The sample size is certainly large enough to consider it a reflection on world opinion. You're the lunatic fringe, Mustapha00. Proven.
Either something is intended to happen or it is not.
OK....but who or what designed the mathematics? Or did it just create itself ex nihilo?
And speaking of mathematics, are you familiar with the theory of irreducible complexity?
Irreducible complexity is absolutely a mathematical concept because it has to do with the statistical near-impossibility of life being the product of random chance.
A very common deflection by those who see evolution as 'settled science'- in much the same vein as those who see 'climate change' as 'settled science' (and for the same reason) is to pretend that the concept is not worth examining. It used to be that data shaped the theory; now, it is theory shaping data.
But I would agree, save for the religious overtones of the SSM debate, evolution versus creationism has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
As for your initial question- an excellent one, I might add- I tend to think that it was, and continues to be, a discovery. No aspect of science is- or ought to be- ever "settled". I just today read a story on a potentially entirely new classification of black hole. It was not all that long ago that we knew of only one type of black hole- and that only by indirect observation- and that its cause was the collapse of a star virtually once all of its fusion elements were exhausted. That is no longer the case.
All one need do to prove the statistical near improbability of life forming as a completely random event is to consider each and every single factor that goes into the creation of life, multiply that times the statistical improbability that all the factors happen on the single order which results in life being created times the number of locations in the multiverse with conditions consistent with the creations and sustenance of life. Only that last portion of that equation has a value above zero.
As to the black hole issue: http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/636120/New-type-of-BLACK-HOLE-discovered-in-the-Milky-Way
Every story I've read refers to this as a "new type" of black hole rather than a derivation of an existing type. Every time we think we are on the path to figuring out something, it seems Something throws us a curveball.
“There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings,” Dawkins said. “I am not aware of any Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death.”