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50% less GE Diamonds? More Like 75-90% (3yr Data Sheet)

Did the loss of diamond rewards in GE this week cause the game to lose sparkle for you?

  • Sadly, Yes

    Votes: 60 52.2%
  • Angrily, Yes

    Votes: 41 35.7%
  • Happily, Yes

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • I'm Confused

    Votes: 5 4.3%
  • No Comment

    Votes: 5 4.3%
  • Unprintable Comment!

    Votes: 17 14.8%

  • Total voters
    115
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Pericles the Lion

Well-Known Member
Just finished up this GBG season on 3 Diamond worlds I play. Grand total of 5005 fighting encounters, 1,840 diamonds won. Average of 1 diamond for each 2.72 encounters which is better than the expected 1 per 4. RNG working in my favor I guess.
 

amw1973

New Member
I personally don't have funds to buy in game purchases so winning them was the only way I got diamonds and now I'm lucky if I get any very, very disappointed hopefully they will at least rethink what they have done and make it better for the next upgrade. I voted Angrily yes
 

MKPapa

Active Member
GE is very simple now. Two 30% chances to get 90 diamonds at lvl.4, and that's it. Statistically speaking this means 54 diamonds on average per season.
And considering all other rewards, including Relics, the only reason I still do GE is for guild. When my defense boost eventually become high enough, I will complete lvl. 5 for Serpents, etc., but no rush here. I completed it couple times - too much pain at the moment.
 

Pericles the Lion

Well-Known Member
GE is very simple now. Two 30% chances to get 90 diamonds at lvl.4, and that's it. Statistically speaking this means 54 diamonds on average per season.
And considering all other rewards, including Relics, the only reason I still do GE is for guild. When my defense boost eventually become high enough, I will complete lvl. 5 for Serpents, etc., but no rush here. I completed it couple times - too much pain at the moment.
It's 3 30% chances to get 90 diamonds, not 2. 81 diamonds per season on average, not 54.

Statistics mean nothing when the odds are just moved around by the developer anyway. The 3 last GE completed to level 5 gave me zero diamonds.
If you hit a 3 season dry spell it's just bad luck. Or, maybe INNO has a "Kentucky windage" variable added to the equation. Players that chronically accuse them of dishonesty get more frequent runs of "bad luck" while more positive players get better treatment. :cool:
 

xivarmy

Well-Known Member
If you hit a 3 season dry spell it's just bad luck. Or, maybe INNO has a "Kentucky windage" variable added to the equation. Players that chronically accuse them of dishonesty get more frequent runs of "bad luck" while more positive players get better treatment. :cool:
That can't be it, i'm far from a positive player and don't feel I get inordinately screwed ;)

But I'm also very accepting of "people are poor judges of randomness".
 

matr

Member
Has anyone ever seen any data showing rewards match or beat the advertised rates? Everytime someone takes their time to collect data and post results the first response is you were just unlucky or hit a dry spell. I agree it is easy to misjudge random results but when people collect data and report those results it is a different thing. Sure one sample is not conclusive but if I consider the number of posts that say they never got the advertised rate I sure do wonder.
 

Emberguard

Well-Known Member
Has anyone ever seen any data showing rewards match or beat the advertised rates?
Yes. I haven't kept any links to those that have posted supporting data, but there have been instances in the past where people have posted results matching fairly closely to expected rates (for things in general, not necessarily diamonds)

If we wanted a unbiased result and were really serious about it we could all agree to start compiling data from every gaming session, make sure we're doing so in a way that prevents loss of data / mistakes, and post it in a same or similar format as each other so it's easy to read.
 

UBERhelp1

Well-Known Member
My current data since the start of May.
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I'm averaging about the expected with Vingrid (expected is 81 diamonds/week), but am much higher in Angkor.
 

Darkest.Knight

Well-Known Member
0 diamonds this week from GE but I'm still close to 1000 for the week w/o them, lol. Diamond farms and fights work pretty well for getting them, received 60 for today's fights.
 

LordKaris

New Member
Change GE back to the way it was!! It is not nearly as fun or useful to play We have lost several players due to this change
 

PJS299

Well-Known Member
Change GE back to the way it was!! It is not nearly as fun or useful to play We have lost several players due to this change
I totally agree, but I don't think the change is coming. The idea of a GE level using defense is great, but taking away from the other levels is not so great.
 

UBERhelp1

Well-Known Member
Just want to come back to this and give a 6 month update on my data tracking for GE diamonds (has it really been that long?):

After nearly 7 months, I've averaged 92.9 diamonds/week on one world, and 72.58 on another - combined, I'm averaging 82.74 diamonds/week, slightly above the expected value of 81/week.

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PJS299

Well-Known Member
This is my sheet. In H I got an average of 90 diamonds a week.
B I got an average of 90 diamonds a week.

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