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Would this violate any game rules?

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DeletedUser35976

Here's the idea: A player in say, future era takes an unfair trade from a guildmate in iron age, say 5 iron for 10 future goods, in exchange for a couple of FP. Iron age player then trades down those goods to iron age, resulting in them having thousands of iron age goods. They could then complete GE 4 with ease. Would this system violate any game rules?
 

DeletedUser34800

I don't think so. They exchanged goods for a given price (of FPs). Whatever that person who collected said goods does with them, is entirely up to them. Build a GB of that era, trade the goods down to build a GB of another era, sell off the newly acquired goods to some other player for a profit, save them to look at, or trade them all the way down so the initial goods are worth far more IA goods for their GE.

It all seems okay.
 
Agent327

Agent327

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MCH1 said:
Here's the idea: A player in say, future era takes an unfair trade from a guildmate in iron age, say 5 iron for 10 future goods, in exchange for a couple of FP. Iron age player then trades down those goods to iron age, resulting in them having thousands of iron age goods. They could then complete GE 4 with ease. Would this system violate any game rules?
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Reading the gffame rules will tell you.
 

DeletedUser

MCH1 said:
Here's the idea: A player in say, future era takes an unfair trade from a guildmate in iron age, say 5 iron for 10 future goods, in exchange for a couple of FP. Iron age player then trades down those goods to iron age, resulting in them having thousands of iron age goods. They could then complete GE 4 with ease. Would this system violate any game rules?
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Are you related to @tuckerkao ?
 

DeletedUser29726

The main thing you'll discover is that it's hard to trade down at 1:2. So if your dream was to turn those 10 FE goods into 1000+ iron age goods it might be advisable to temper the expectations. (200-500 iron age goods probably a more reliable range depending on how much work you're going to put into it)
 

DeletedUser

MCH1 said:
No, just want my guild to all complete GE 4.
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That's an admirable goal, but the reality of doing what you propose to do would be a nightmare. You would have to have friends and neighbors in all the ages from Future down to Iron, and they would have to have sufficient goods to trade you. And be willing to do it. What's their incentive? Unless you offer attractive trades (which would at least partially defeat the purpose), why would they take your trades?
 

DeletedUser36624

Not only that but GE4 is already easy to negotiate through?
 
Emberguard

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No. The game rules about pushing relate to a account being created for the purpose of boosting another account(s) to gain an unfair advantage.

Buying goods off of other players is a legit strategy and falls within what Inno allows.

Stephen Longshanks said:
That's an admirable goal, but the reality of doing what you propose to do would be a nightmare. You would have to have friends and neighbors in all the ages from Future down to Iron, and they would have to have sufficient goods to trade you. And be willing to do it. What's their incentive? Unless you offer attractive trades (which would at least partially defeat the purpose), why would they take your trades?
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Plenty of top guilds are willing to do just that for any newcomer. Investing in a fellow guildmate with the expectation that they'll give back to the guild through their participation isn't breaking the rules.

Giving them everything and doing nothing else in the game - that would be breaking the rules. The concern isn;t helping other players, but creating an account purely to boost other players. If you're not playing the game, then you're not playing and shouldn't be going out of your way to effect other players regardless of whether it's a positive or negative effect.
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A push account is an account that is mainly used to help another account while neglecting other parts of the game. This means that it is not allowed to use an account solely for the purpose of helping another account grow, or to knowingly receive benefits or any kind of support from such account.
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Emberguard said:
No. The game rules about pushing relate to a account being created for the purpose of boosting another account(s) to gain an unfair advantage.

Buying goods off of other players is a legit strategy and falls within what Inno allows.


Plenty of top guilds are willing to do just that for any newcomer. Investing in a fellow guildmate with the expectation that they'll give back to the guild through their participation isn't breaking the rules.

Giving them everything and doing nothing else in the game - that would be breaking the rules. The concern isn;t helping other players, but creating an account purely to boost other players. If you're not playing the game, then you're not playing and shouldn't be going out of your way to effect other players regardless of whether it's a positive or negative effect.
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Nobody was talking about push accounts.
 
Emberguard

Emberguard

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Not by name. But the concern they were raising would require an understanding of what rules are in place if the discussion is to go beyond a Yes/No answer.

"Would this violate any rules?" is really asking "In what circumstances would this not be acceptable? / what rules would this fall under? "


Perhaps it's a cultural thing, but my teachers taught me to read between the lines and look for what someone means rather then what they're saying at face value. Because often a question is posed based on what someone thinks they need to solve a problem, rather then what the actual problem is
 
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Emberguard said:
Not by name. But the concern they were raising would require an understanding of what rules are in place if the discussion is to go beyond a Yes/No answer.

"Would this violate any rules?" is really asking "In what circumstances would this not be acceptable? / what rules would this fall under? "


Perhaps it's a cultural thing, but my teachers taught me to read between the lines and look for what someone means rather then what they're saying at face value. Because often a question is posed based on what someone thinks they need to solve a problem, rather then what the actual problem is
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If that's what they wanted to know you still gave the wrong answer. With this being 2 different players the only way it would be against the rules is if the trades occurred across different worlds. Player A gets goods from Player B on World A, Player A gives fp's to Player B on World D; that would be against the rules.
 

Jase249

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IMO, not a chance that that's against the rules (though of course the mods would have the final say). In many guilds, top players simply give away goods to lower-age players, especially when they're not using them anyway. A "push" account is one in which the primary (often sole) purpose of the account is to "feed" another. That's not what's happening in your hypothetical. You have guildmate A being generous with guildmate B (not to mention guildmate A probably won't even miss those goods), and guildmate B is trading down.

Now, if guildmate B spent a month doing nothing but putting FPs on guildmate A's GBs in exchange for the cited 10 FE goods, then you might run into a problem. There is a degree of subjective judgment involved. Keep in mind though the mods are also experienced players (I'm assuming since they frequently advertise in-game for them). They know the difference between a "push" account and doing a favor for a guildmate.
 
Agent327

Agent327

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Ozyman Tremble Weaklings said:
If that's what they wanted to know you still gave the wrong answer. With this being 2 different players the only way it would be against the rules is if the trades occurred across different worlds. Player A gets goods from Player B on World A, Player A gives fp's to Player B on World D; that would be against the rules.
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Depending on the server you play on.
 

DeletedUser31440

Agent327 said:
Some country servers allow it. Polish server for one. If you look at their game rules you will notice that line missing.
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That's fairly bizarre, but you're right there is nothing in the Polish rules that forbid it.

Pure speculation - They allow it on small servers to encourage people to play on more worlds?
 
Agent327

Agent327

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Ozyman Tremble Weaklings said:
That's fairly bizarre, but you're right there is nothing in the Polish rules that forbid it.

Pure speculation - They allow it on small servers to encourage people to play on more worlds?
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I was told by a CM that countries are free to make a choice in this. What I was told is that they allow it cause they can not prevent or check it anyhow. So next to diamondfarms there are servers where you can have crossdeals. It is allowed as long as you are active on a world. By collecting your diamondfarms you are active.
 
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