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Woody*
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Regarding goods...I don't use goods buildings because I get all that I need from LoA, ToB, GE and my wells. I do like to buy goods, though. I buy the highest age I can get and trade them down so I can build up a supply to negotiate sectors on the Campaign Map. I'm working on LMA sectors now so I can get more expansions (I have 5 wells in my inventory that I don't have space for).
DeletedUser31440
ToB doesn't cover enough population for goods buildings, and want to keep goods buildings until I figure out a balance on rogues without Traz.
Woody*
Active Member
I was able to auto attack through GE3 and into GE4 with a level 10 zeus, level 10 CoA and my Traz. I did not need my Traz to be level 10 to keep pace with the rogue loss, but I can remember the exact break-even point. (Clearly, it was cheaper and faster than reaching the same point with an AO, though
). I use Legionnaires and Mounted Warriors. Legionnaires are full auto, and if there is a heavy archer/ballista army, I start the fight with 1 MW, hold it in place and then auto. I have used Color Guards, too but it's just too easy to use Legionnaires, IMO.
Woody*
Active Member
Gotcha...long term I think you can ditch those buildings, though.
DeletedUser31440
I agree, but I enjoy clearing the guild trade market too much, so I keep pretty high stocks. It takes awhile to build them up. I'd like to get a good military focused setup for future diamond farms that don't do much with goods. I think with the amount of rogues from DC's, GE & ToR it's much easier to get one setup and running without any GB's above EMA.
DeletedUser32973
Any reason you need a pop GB at all? I see some blacksmiths, but I'm not sure what their purpose is besides daily quests (why would you be doing DC though
).What you have here is my ideal diamond farm minus the watchfires and smiths.
DeletedUser29218
For me this completely defeats the point of a diamond city.
I don't even know why so many people has diamond cities though. I have one more because I'm curious to see how the autobattle works at different lvls of bonuses than the diamonds themselves. After all, if you only care about diamonds it is way more efficient to work literally anywhere and purchase them. But I guess that's a completely different topic.
Do you think it can eventually be done alcatraz-less (having TOR) with a reasonable amount of bonus (non-powerleveled zeus cdm coa)?
Woody*
Active Member
I agree 100%
Yes you could eventually auto through GE4, and there are more than 1 ways to go about it. The simplest is to have more than 1 rogue hideout to cover the losses you will have. You could also use an AO and/or Kraken which have a smaller footprint than the Traz (but they have higher cost for the goods and leveling). And you could also increase your military boost with special buildings.
DeletedUser32973
At the point where it only takes you 1 hour a week to do GE on all your worlds this isn't necessarily true. There is also the satisfaction of not using real money to pay your way through a game. That's just my take on it. I immensely dislike the concept of "pay to win."
DeletedUser31440
I couldn't look at myself in the mirror if I had to buy a nice city like @Prisca 757 the Savior did.
DeletedUser31498
Curious about the ToR. I have one on my diamond mine and am going to delete it I think. The VERY rare FoY is great obviously, but doesn't seem worth the space to me. I am one BP away from capitol also to free up tons of room, and don't think it's worth the goods/units it provides for the space. Curious other people's thoughts.
Though I do have a level 10 ToB, so maybe I just planned this really poorly...buying goods for FPs seems like a great use of space for the future. I just don't have enough good stuff to put down that I wasn't thinking far enough ahead. Cherry blossom event stunk for diamond mines!
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DeletedUser31498
I don't understand. earlier you said:
Why not get rid of the smiths and use your 5 wells?? at the pace you're winning from other methods there's no way you'll ever win more in DC than the benefit of simply using them now, right? But swap those smiths for WW and that is the perfect city i think?
DeletedUser31440
I was hesitant on ToR, but I'm glad I decided to put it down. It has definitely accelerated my progress on other GB's, the extra goods are always welcome, it's effective at low levels so I haven't put many fp's into it to get noticable rewards, and it makes GE more enjoyable. Once I get everything else up and running where I'd like it though it may get deleted, but probably not as I do like the relic hunt aspect of GE as well.
DeletedUser29218
ToR is very good imo. It gives goods, rogues, standard units and FPs in decent amounts. I would build it in every city, and definitely I wouldn't delete it (unless literally my entire city was filled with WW)
DeletedUser31498
Alright I'm keeping it! Agree about the fun aspect of it, to me that's the main sway, though efficiency-wise I don't see it making sense once one has their city self-sustaining, as Claire does.
DeletedUser27184
With the usual troop+7 rouges you shouldn't start AA from the expedition menu. In most cases the AI will move your troop forward first, and if the enemy have long range they will target him first (as he runs before the rogues) and kill him, and the rest of the rogues after that. For AA I advise to get into the fight, move your troop to the left-high point, then AA.
DeletedUser31440
I dont agree with this, depending on the troops that you are facing and the single unit that you are using. If you're using a heavy and the enemy has artillery you can safely auto from expedition 99% of the time on a single wave army. Upside to doing that is that your single unit will act as a pincushion saving rogues, but they won't be killed until after at least 1 rogue has been converted. I don't do this all the time, but it isn't a suicide run the majority of the time, well it is a suicide run for your single troop but that's alright.