Achaeus 1283 the Avenger
Active Member
I am curious about what is considered normal and accepted behavior within a guild. Since I joined active guilds (instead of the 'Guild in name only' guilds I was originally in on 2 of my worlds, I've seen a couple of things which seem to be accepted, but give me pause.
1) A high-level player spamming their Great Building onto every swap thread from 5 to whatever the max is for that guild. This bothers me for a few reasons, notably that often the building involved is one that low-level players are unlikely to want just now (Flying Castle for example). With every Swap thread occupied by the building in question, players have no choice but to post on it in order to participate in the swap threads. Secondly, as a low-level player putting 5 or 10 FP's on a building, while others are placing 20, 30, 40, 50, 100 and more - my chances at a payout position are pretty dismal.
It seems to me that high-level players should keep to the higher Swap threads and leave the lowest threads for newer players. Alternatively, use the same building on a specific swap thread so that everybody has a fair chance at a payout position.
2) I see players with very high level buildings place them on the swap threads when P1, P2 and sometimes P3 are already locked, either by guild-mates or often by friends outside the guild. This feels like throwing the scraps to one's less able guild-mates. If it was a formal 1.9 thread, I could see it, but this is not what is happening.
3) I had the experience of leading a Round Robin group intended to get Observatories built by newer players, when one of the top members dumped a bunch of Forge Points on one of the Observatories in the group, apparently intending to force the building to payout. In doing so, he bumped everybody in the group down a position and deprived them of the rewards they had earned. In my opinion, this was also very short-sighted, as the whole point of the group is to get Observatories built by more players in order to solve a Guild Goods problem in the long-term. Forcing a one-time payout is far less important than the long-term. In other guilds I am involved in, this behavior would be considered sniping guild-mates and extremely discouraged.
On the other hand, I have seen some very generous behavior by senior guild-mates. In my newest city, a senior member with a high-level Arc has made a habit of ensuring that P5 is reserved for low-level members. This is done by specific arrangement and it works very well. 2 P5's and a lucky neighborhood snipe and I had the BP's for the earliest Arc I've ever established. That Senior Member is still offering the chance to newer members and he is also now organizing a group to cooperatively level up those new Arcs and get BP's for future levels. It's not a Round Robin, but a different construct. I'm curious to see how the progress compares with a Round Robin. The same member also gets people the goods to build the Arcs.
I am also curious if anyone else has particular peeves or praises for what they've seen in Guilds.
1) A high-level player spamming their Great Building onto every swap thread from 5 to whatever the max is for that guild. This bothers me for a few reasons, notably that often the building involved is one that low-level players are unlikely to want just now (Flying Castle for example). With every Swap thread occupied by the building in question, players have no choice but to post on it in order to participate in the swap threads. Secondly, as a low-level player putting 5 or 10 FP's on a building, while others are placing 20, 30, 40, 50, 100 and more - my chances at a payout position are pretty dismal.
It seems to me that high-level players should keep to the higher Swap threads and leave the lowest threads for newer players. Alternatively, use the same building on a specific swap thread so that everybody has a fair chance at a payout position.
2) I see players with very high level buildings place them on the swap threads when P1, P2 and sometimes P3 are already locked, either by guild-mates or often by friends outside the guild. This feels like throwing the scraps to one's less able guild-mates. If it was a formal 1.9 thread, I could see it, but this is not what is happening.
3) I had the experience of leading a Round Robin group intended to get Observatories built by newer players, when one of the top members dumped a bunch of Forge Points on one of the Observatories in the group, apparently intending to force the building to payout. In doing so, he bumped everybody in the group down a position and deprived them of the rewards they had earned. In my opinion, this was also very short-sighted, as the whole point of the group is to get Observatories built by more players in order to solve a Guild Goods problem in the long-term. Forcing a one-time payout is far less important than the long-term. In other guilds I am involved in, this behavior would be considered sniping guild-mates and extremely discouraged.
On the other hand, I have seen some very generous behavior by senior guild-mates. In my newest city, a senior member with a high-level Arc has made a habit of ensuring that P5 is reserved for low-level members. This is done by specific arrangement and it works very well. 2 P5's and a lucky neighborhood snipe and I had the BP's for the earliest Arc I've ever established. That Senior Member is still offering the chance to newer members and he is also now organizing a group to cooperatively level up those new Arcs and get BP's for future levels. It's not a Round Robin, but a different construct. I'm curious to see how the progress compares with a Round Robin. The same member also gets people the goods to build the Arcs.
I am also curious if anyone else has particular peeves or praises for what they've seen in Guilds.
