So the Guild recruits and supports a GVG Army and the Leaders are okay with that.
Maybe you haven't been paying attention, but GBG has pretty much all of that.
That part was years ago. I haven't seen anyone mention that in at least 6 or 7 years. Everyone knows that GvG is centered around recalc time and only solo or small guild players do much outside of that one time per day.
Yep. Starting in 2015...8 years ago. You just noticed?
That would have to be really old, because the one recalc time has been a thing since at least 2015 when I started.
This is about the only valid statement in your entire post.
They have GBG, it has much of the scheming and strategizing that GvG has had.
This is only half true. GvG was not part of the original FoE, and FoE is and always has been a city/empire building game with a fighting aspect as part of it.
Not for nothing. GvG guilds/players have dominated the rankings for most of the game's history, despite GvG not being available to most players. You got your ranking and bragging rights, which is all you ever paid/worked for. And you still get to keep the guild levels that GvG got you.
First, GvG did not put FoE "on the map", the main game did that. GvG is just a feature of the game, and not even the main one anymore. (In fact, it was the main feature for only a relatively short time before it was basically frozen in time.) If you haven't noticed, the game has kept growing long after GvG development was abandoned. Second, lots of us who don't do GvG, or just barely do it, are also disgusted with many of the changes to the game over the last several years. Personally, I miss the Historical Events way more than I'll ever miss GvG.
2023, I cant find a person in real life that doesn't have at least laptop,
People liked GvG and its gone now, Why take a chance on liking Raids?
Your arrogance is painful.
many people have moved beyond having pcs to just a phone + tablet (both of which would have only mobile apps)
Did I really need to specify ON THE US SERVERS????? The only change to recalc times on the US servers was a short time when they changed it to 8 AM instead of 8 PM, which was quickly reversed when it met with almost universal disaproval. There has never been anything but a 24 hour recalc time on the US servers since at least early 2015. This is the US Forum, not the Beta or EN Forum.
Clearly, you know all.This is an arrogant (and ignorant) statement. People don't like GvG for many reasons, but not understanding it is not even on the first page of reasons.
Been there, done that, still didn't like it.
This may be true for you, but not for the majority of players.
Like GvG is the only way to build personal connections.
They didn't say "accounts", they said "active players". Which certainly implies that they differentiate between active and inactive, and they are the only ones who really know which is which.
Know all? Not by a long shot. However, I have been on the Forum for 8 1/2 years and seen many discussions of the pros and cons of GvG. I have also communicated with many, many players in-game over the years about GvG (and many other things.) I didn't just come on here with an agenda and make statements based only on my own narrow view of GvG. Which is why I called your statement about people "not understanding" GvG arrogant and ignorant. And that's not even getting into your ridiculous view that GvG is the only way to build personal connections.
Didn't say that. Just because you are on a forum for 8.5 years means... what? Just because I have not posted on this forum for the time I have played does not mean that I have not been here lurking. I've seen the posts, and I have lived it in several guilds on multiple worlds. I'll just continue to disagree that any other form of game on FOE develops relationships like GvG. You have to work together daily. All other forms you do not. The countless hours spent talking (texting) with each other each night is what I refer to. Our guild is on for several hours after GvG ends to continue to meet and talk. Without a common time and goal, that will die. Those of use who have lived it know that, and are mourning the loss of something very personal.
In Q we lost 4 decade old members and all were the original guild founders in the guilds they were in last week. Inno doesn't have a clue.
This has always been my problem with GvG. It was the main deciding factor in the guild ranking of the top 15ish guilds. They all have similar points from level and similar points from GbG. The only difference was how active they were in GvG. But GvG is only open to a fraction of the game population. I like GvG, but you can't make the main ranking system dependent on a feature only available to half the players.
It means that I have been part of the discussions over the years, not just an onlooker. It's hilarious, really. You think that those who don't like GvG "don't understand it", yet you think "lurking" gives you the same understanding as someone who actually participates in the discussions. I think you understand GvG. I don't think you understand the vast majority of players who don't do GvG. You certainly don't understand how relationships work if you think GvG is the only way to connect with other players. I've had connections with lots of players over the years. Only once was it about GvG. They were special while they lasted, and when it was time we all moved on. Now appears to be that time for you. If anything, you should be thankful that you got that much out of GvG. The majority of us got nothing except main game lag from GvG.
The 2015 Memorial Event was an event that ran from September 10, 2015 to September 18, 2015. This mini event is a tribute to Anwar Dalati, the lead game designer of InnoGames, who recently passed away.
And this arrogance has grown exponentially over those 8.5 years. Good grief! There is no reason to be so rude and condescending to everyone all the time. We all know you are very opinionated and don't like or want GVG, so why are you still on this thread repeating that same opinion over and over? Enough already! There's a whole lot of us who have played for more than 10 years as well, and we all love GVG. Its why we are still here. We don't want, need or appreciate your snide comments on every post. It just shows how self serving you truly are.
