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No. I've not. I bet neither have you. I hear the accusation, can you prove it?
I have tried the 6 good negotiations but my success on them with 3 cities and 2 years have been not good at all unless you spend diamonds. I have had success with them in GE with the extra turn. However, on 3 turns, my success has been so bad that I don't even attempt them anymore. I have tried just about every tip that I have found in the forums.Why don't you do the 6 goods negotiations, if it's only one good of each it's no big deal.
Learn how to do the negotiations and it's no big deal. You might have noticed that it seems to want you to spend diamonds on one of the sets and then you start winning them.
During GBG start the new day doing negotiations so you don't waste good then fight as your attrition gets higher.
Negotiating GE Tips
I tend to negotiate in GE from level 3 to 4, sometimes the last half of level 2 depending on if I have enough time to fight through or just want to get through it quickly. Regardless, at some point almost everybody who pushes into the higher levels of GE will do some negotiating, so why not have...forum.us.forgeofempires.com
I've seen it in GBG many times, you'll be losing 5 times in a row on one negotiation then you pay the diamonds for the extra turn and then I'll run the board to get my 15 in for the day!
Just coincidence. I negotiate in GBG every day just to use up SC charges. Always use up all the charges. Never spend diamonds. Oh, and I don't think that I've every lost 5 times in a row, even with 6-good negos. Think about it logically. If INNO programmed a way of tweaking the outcome on-the-fly after a player uses diamonds for an extra turn do you really think they would tweak it to make it easier? I think they would think "fish on!" and maintain the level of difficulty.
I have never tried it 5 times. after 3 I would just give up. However, I no longer even attempt 6 good negotiations. That is why my original question was about why that was all that I was seeing. With the new map, I am not having that issue, I am able to find 4 and 5 good negotiations.
Well...they are a business. Hard to have a business if you don't make money.
I have always wondered if the attrition factor for fighting may also be applied in the background to influence negotiation difficulty. My early negotiations are fairly straight forward, but as attrition builds, they become more difficult (and more expensive goods-wise). I've had runs with prolonged (17) 6-good negotiations. If INNO's purpose is to get me to spend more money, it may work short term, but in the end I will vote with my feet. .
The attrition factor is applied to both fighting and negotiating. It would make no sense to have attrition in this case only apply to fighting.
He is talking about some kind of mechanism that makes negotiations harder to successfully complete as your attrition goes up, not the extra cost you have to pay. I've never noticed anything of the sort, even when well over 100 attrition. Negotiations are just what they are. Sometimes you narrow down the tough ones and guess right in the last turn, sometimes you don't.
No. He is talking about the cost and the fact that you get more 6 good negotiations. He mentions those facts as support for his thought that "somehow" attrition is affecting negotiations as well as fighting. He clearly thought it only applied to fighting and is slowly waking up to the fact that it affects both. He even refers to it as:
So he is not talking about some nefarious background scheme by Inno, although he thinks he is, he is talking about the actual mechanism that he did not understand correctly.
He is all over the place, so I'll admit I'm confused about what he is saying, and not just because I'm going senile. If you can understand, then I applaud you!
I believe that I can count on 1 hand the number of times that I completed a 6 goods negotiation on 3 turns. It does get easier (more "incorrects") as you do it it over and over however, I really don't have that kind of time to waste.
