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Pavlovian Reactionism

Discussion in 'Debate Hall' started by mamboking053, May 13, 2019.

  1. lukerduke the wise

    lukerduke the wise Member

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    Well, I get that you're just saying that he isn't a brilliant mind if he got the most important question of all wrong, just pointing out as a side fact that he can still have useful insights.
     
  2. lukerduke the wise

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    I was also just saying that fastback had a point, if only partially
     
  3. lukerduke the wise

    lukerduke the wise Member

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    Whoops on a mobile device meant razorback not fastback
     
  4. Graviton

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    Or at least they think they do. Usually it's about how to run somebody else's life.

    Allow me to clarify my statement: I meant to say the party apparatus and the politicians are essentially members of the same Ruling Party. They just kinda-sorta swap power every once in awhile, but they're always there. They exploit those honest policy disagreements that we regular joes have to get us to join their team and demonize the other guys.

    I honestly think that too many opinions are emotionally held rather than rationally arrived at. I think that's why people get so upset when their beliefs are challenged: they're not sure why they believe what they do, they just feel that it's right, and so any disagreement is viewed as a personal attack. It also leads to the aforementioned demonization: I think what I believe makes me a good person, so if you disagree with me, you must be a bad person. Nevermind what the arguments are, what the logic is, we skip on by that and assign the motivation solely to character, or lack thereof. It's utter nonsense, and yet I'm convinced that describes a majority of people. Sadly, that is also exploited by policitians, even those who claim to be outsiders.
     
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  5. lukerduke the wise

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    Totally agree with that. That is why so many debates turn into shouting matches with each side screaming their one opinion rather than reasoned and informed debate
     
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  6. Stephen Longshanks

    Stephen Longshanks Forum Moderator

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    Never said he couldn't have useful insights. A person can have all kinds of useful insights on minor stuff, but if they get the big things wrong, they can hardly be called brilliant.
     
  7. RazorbackPirate

    RazorbackPirate Well-Known Member

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    Can't say I agree. Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. That hardly qualifies him for Mensa.
     
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  8. lukerduke the wise

    lukerduke the wise Member

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    Very true. I agree for the most part.
     
  9. lukerduke the wise

    lukerduke the wise Member

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    Stephen all I was doing was defending a small portion of what RazorbackPirate was saying. I am sympathetic to what you are saying but also was trying to explain to you what he was saying. But by now of course I'm sure you understand what he meant
     
  10. Stephen Longshanks

    Stephen Longshanks Forum Moderator

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    I understood what he meant when I first read it.
     
  11. lukerduke the wise

    lukerduke the wise Member

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    Ok sorry I just misunderstood the first time then. Sorry
     

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