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Winter 2021 Feedback

Johnny B. Goode

Well-Known Member
Let's face it, after a player has accomplished obtaining all nine reindeer,
So first of all, you didn't "accomplish" anything. The Reindeer come FREE when you WIN the Daily Special. FREE. You can feel free to ignore them. Treat them like all the other Diamond offers you get during events. Ignore them.
they then have to spend about 3,000 diamonds. Let's state this clearly again... 3,000 DIAMONDS!!!
Actually, 2995 Diamonds. Which still leaves you enough to collect from your city with the 5 Diamond button.
Unless a player has the 3,000 diamonds to waste, the reindeer element is a complete waste of time and effort,
It takes neither time nor effort to get the Reindeer. They are FREE. The Daily Special takes time and effort, but you don't then have to buy it. You've WON it. And you get the Reindeer FREE along with it.
they drop the roughly $60 to obtain those diamonds
Or get them free from quests, GE, GBG. WWs. Then the Diamonds are also FREE.
So, Inno, unless you like to upset players in this game, you really ought to provide some other method for players to be able to obtain all those items for each of the reindeer, through whatever means possible outside of laying out $60 or wasting the 3.000 diamonds that are so vital during game play.
You mean like as rewards in PVP Arena? Or to purchase from the AD? Or even win during events? Lots of ways to get all the items without spending a single Diamond. In fact, you can collect as many goods and/or FP as are included in the Reindeer Sleigh from Incidents if you collect them each day during the event. A 30+ day event means you only have to find 2 FP and/or 2 goods per day to equal what's in the Reindeer Sleigh. And Incidents are FREE.

Are you sensing the theme here? Let me spell it out for you. F.R.E.E. Got it now? Good. Now let's move on to real issues, if you don't mind.
 

Emberguard

Well-Known Member
Inno should have known better even casinos know to guarantee a certain return of money spent.
There is a inbuilt guarantee: 10 stars is guaranteed to be 1 progress (minimum) towards Grand Prize.

It’s just not guaranteed Daily Special and Calendar (those have never been guaranteed unless you have a click to buy option)
 
You can post your thoughts about the Winter Event here.

Learn more about the event in this topic.

Thank you.
One thing that is totally wrong is the Calendar Key issue. It is virtually almost impossible to get all the keys. There are 12 days left and I need 18 calendar keys to get the prize. I have done all the quests and have found all the stars available. I have also done all the quests in the daily challenges looking for Calendar key parts and so far have finished all the quests successfully. Other than spending diamonds (which I will not do for quests), there is no way that I will be able to get all calendar keys. In fact, I will probably fall short by at least 8-10 calendar keys (not just 1 or 2) and that makes that part of the event not reachable. I play every day and for at least 6 hours a day and that is just plain wrong.
 

Sharmon the Impaler

Well-Known Member
The calendar is not for Diamond spenders , we aren’t idiots. The “refills” are 500 diamonds per key or 18000 diamonds to get them all. Since when is 200 FP , an avatar and 2 selection kits to a beginner building worth 170$ CAD. No thanks , I will pass on this “reward”
 

Johnny B. Goode

Well-Known Member
One thing that is totally wrong is the Calendar Key issue. It is virtually almost impossible to get all the keys. There are 12 days left and I need 18 calendar keys to get the prize. I have done all the quests and have found all the stars available. I have also done all the quests in the daily challenges looking for Calendar key parts and so far have finished all the quests successfully. Other than spending diamonds (which I will not do for quests), there is no way that I will be able to get all calendar keys. In fact, I will probably fall short by at least 8-10 calendar keys (not just 1 or 2) and that makes that part of the event not reachable. I play every day and for at least 6 hours a day and that is just plain wrong.
I am also caught up with the event quests, and have done all but one Daily Challenge for the key parts. I also search regularly for Incidents to get extra stars. I have also been fairly lucky overall. However, on 11 worlds ranging from Iron Age to Space Age Mars I am averaging 14 out of 20 Calendar doors opened so far. My best is an HMA city that has opened 19/20, with 3 fragments currently. Worst is several that only have 11 opened. If I can get any of them to within one door of finishing, I will spend the few Diamonds necessary just to do it. I won't be trying for another calendar again in any event, though. I originally thought that the fragments from the DCs would make it more possible, but it doesn't seem to be the case. The world where I have 19 doors opened I have been extremely lucky with my present opening. (I only open presents if I have over 100 Stars most of the time, and stop if I get a Shuffle with less than 100 Stars left.)

The way I look at it, however, is that this is a side activity that doesn't need to be done. I normally ignore these things in events, but thought I would try this once to see how it would go. Next time I'll go back to ignoring the DCs with key fragment rewards, and only open presents when I want the day's special prize.
 

Kranyar the Mysterious

Well-Known Member
Perhaps one of the things that makes me want to stop playing FoE is the absolutely moronic reindeer & sleigh element within the Winter Event. Let's face it, after a player has accomplished obtaining all nine reindeer, they then have to spend about 3,000 diamonds. Let's state this clearly again... 3,000 DIAMONDS!!!

Unless a player has the 3,000 diamonds to waste, the reindeer element is a complete waste of time and effort, and really wish it could be turned off within game options. The fact that it remains only reminds me that perhaps Inno really doesn't care about players in this game until and unless they drop the roughly $60 to obtain those diamonds, if they don't already have them. In other words, unless you're prepared to lay out some cash, this game element isn't for you, or most of the players in this game, worldwide.

So, Inno, unless you like to upset players in this game, you really ought to provide some other method for players to be able to obtain all those items for each of the reindeer, through whatever means possible outside of laying out $60 or wasting the 3.000 diamonds that are so vital during game play.
Many people gladly pay that many diamonds to get extra upgrades for the event building, whether through extra event currency, event boosts,, or things like the sleigh, and the reindeer sleigh includes upgrades. There is nothing wrong with the reindeer sleigh, just your expectations, especially since nothing has changed from the last few winter events.
 

bdefrogg

New Member
Along the line of diamond costs in the Winter game, 120 diamonds for 10 stars seems a bit steep for just one xmas box, esp. now that gathering stars has decreased. Personally, I wouldn't pay more than 2 or 3 diamonds per star. I rarely worry about dribbling diamonds day to day, but dropping hundreds or thousands, I'd only spend on land squares or something else really major.
 

Kranyar the Mysterious

Well-Known Member
Along the line of diamond costs in the Winter game, 120 diamonds for 10 stars seems a bit steep for just one xmas box, esp. now that gathering stars has decreased. Personally, I wouldn't pay more than 2 or 3 diamonds per star. I rarely worry about dribbling diamonds day to day, but dropping hundreds or thousands, I'd only spend on land squares or something else really major.
And that is the difference between us and the big spenders, because there are plenty of players who gain 3 to 5 (or more) event buildings every event. That is expensive, and those are the people Inno is catering the reindeer sleigh to.
 

Sharmon the Impaler

Well-Known Member
And that is the difference between us and the big spenders, because there are plenty of players who gain 3 to 5 (or more) event buildings every event. That is expensive, and those are the people Inno is catering the reindeer sleigh to.
Must be going after only the elite spenders. I have 58 fields in my city, put a level on my castle every 2 weeks and 13 bakeries and have no interest in spending 2995 diamonds when 3 of the items in mine are a Watchfire upgrade , 50 goods and a Rogue Hideout.
 

Pericles the Lion

Well-Known Member
This event is ridiculous, there's no way to get all the calendar keys without spending a ton of diamonds and even the main prize is uncertain. Why is Inno releasing events that even daily players can't benefit from?
I agree that completing the calendar requires spending diamonds but I do not agree that the "main prize is uncertain". I play on 5 worlds and have a fully completed building on my main world after spending 1,200 diamonds to get daily specials. But, on my other worlds (all IA towns), I have 3 level 9s (not counting the final questline reward) and one fully levelled building. All without spending diamonds. If anything, with regular play, this is an easy event to get the special building without spending diamonds.
 

Sharmon the Impaler

Well-Known Member
I agree that completing the calendar requires spending diamonds but I do not agree that the "main prize is uncertain". I play on 5 worlds and have a fully completed building on my main world after spending 1,200 diamonds to get daily specials. But, on my other worlds (all IA towns), I have 3 level 9s (not counting the final questline reward) and one fully levelled building. All without spending diamonds. If anything, with regular play, this is an easy event to get the special building without spending diamonds.
Agreed the event is easy , calendar and reindeer are premium only parts but the event building is easy.
 

Ebeondi Asi

Well-Known Member
I spent a few extra bits and can say it is absolutely locked in at ten matchboxes per reward. It can vary a bit but the average over many many matchboxes has been a solid ten. (just as Embeguard wrote) In the variance I have gotten has many as eight one match in a row, and as many as nine three matches in a row. but over many it comes back to ten.
 

RazorbackPirate

Well-Known Member
I finally opened presents today, Christmas Day, for the Bakery selection kits. I had been saving all my stars up until now. I spent a little over 1,000 stars, opened 143 presents, and scored 10 Bakery selection kits. I even hit with a double payout. I'm happy with my haul.
 

Cyrus the Adequate

Active Member
This event is ridiculous, there's no way to get all the calendar keys without spending a ton of diamonds and even the main prize is uncertain. Why is Inno releasing events that even daily players can't benefit from?
Why do you say that the main prize is "uncertain"? I've already got it completed to level 10 in 3 out of 4 cities, and I have yet to spend a single diamond. In the 4th, I've got enough for level 9, and am only 12 candles away from the 10th with 6 days left. Assuming I complete all of the quests, I'm going to wind up with extra levels that I can't use - and again, that's without having spent a single diamond.

In fact, my view is that the main prize is too easy, and the calendar is effectively unobtainable - not the greatest mix.
 

Ericness

Active Member
Still not a fan of the event for reasons I've already shared, but I've been able to effectively ignore it for the last month and will still easily get the main prize plus extras. Huzzah. It is worth noting that this is the first event I've cared this little about since I started playing.

I stand by the calendar being a dud overall given the effort required, but with some planning you can get reasonable rewards from it if you just look up the days that have what you want and use your keys on those alone.

As for the reindeer, not sure why they generate so much anger. They are literally an extra that you can spend diamonds on or not with losing any turns, currency, prizes, etc. Individual players can decide of the prize is worth it to them or not, though I suspect many do buy it since Inno keeps on hauling them back out. Also worth noting, spending diamonds does not necessarily equal spending money! I am a free player and have over 17k diamonds without paying a cent for them. So far I am not convinced to buy my reindeer, but an SB is making me at least think about it.
 

67Sage101

Active Member
The diamond price for the reindeer items might be randomized from free to it's current value. No way I'm paying $30 worth of diamonds for a few upgrade kits and some other tiresome rewards. Maybe it should be priced based on what's there, or maybe we should bid on it...I'd give 50 diamonds for what on my sleigh.
 
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