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According to a fan data website (that I will not name due to it not being connected to Inno), he/she plays on 10 worlds, but Walrand and Xyr appear to be his/her mains.What world do you play in?
According to a fan data website (that I will not name due to it not being connected to Inno), he/she plays on 10 worlds, but Walrand and Xyr appear to be his/her mains.What world do you play in?
I have cities on B, F, G, H, N, S, U, W, X, and Y (plus beta). I am very active in GvG on W and X.What world do you play in?
War I agree with you about your posts apart from this sentence.
However please consider a lot of people would love to participate more in GvG unfortunatly the timing around re-calc seems to work out to dinner time for half the continent. Adjusting protection @ reset time with some kind of random timing .
The problem is that I don't need to be educated in GvG. I have been in guilds that were heavily in GvG. Just because I don't like to be in that type of guild anymore doesn't mean I don't understand these things. I don't know if you've ever seen the movie "Quigley Down Under", but it's kind of like Tom Selleck's character in that movie. The whole movie he only uses a rifle. Tells anyone who asks that he doesn't like pistols. At the end, he's forced into a gunfight with the villain using pistols. Of course, he wins. And after he shoots the bad guy he says, "Said I didn't have much use for 'em, never said I didn't know how to use 'em."@ longshanks Athena is in my rival guild, but she understands me. I'm not going for ad-hominem there in my comments to you, and I will call out those who use those kinds of distractions to avoid genuine discussion. There's no need to be condescending, as it does not strengthen arguments nor anecdotes, mine included. I was literally trying to help you out, and declared open-hearted intention to do so, because it was clear from what you've written that you lacked GvG experience in either degree or setting which would enable you to process some of the comments and complaints, so my goal was to help bridge the gap. However, I can sometimes be neglectful of social nuance and connotation in dominance hierarchies. I also believe the cup must be empty before it can be filled.
@Warvenya, read my last post. Better yet, re-read all my posts. Slowly and carefully, if needed. You don't seem to understand it. Then, just as I did, go to Facebook, watch the latest live Q&A and form your own opinion. As to mine, do whatever you want with it. Distribute it if you must. I don't care.@Razorback Pirate You seem to post very definitively that Inno has made clear what their level of GvG support is, and further the idea that maintaining GvG is in the very least not a priority. Please can you point me to somewhere that this is made clearest and in a most concise way what their position is, so I might educate myself on this, because I'm constantly told that the staff and engineers as well as management have expressed the opposite. Please show me your absolute best steel man case I can point to which shows that complaints are futile so I may distribute this.
As to whether they are withdrawing all the GvG support, I do not know that for a fact. I was speaking almost hypothetically, assuming there was at least some degree of truth in the views expressed here as well as the age of the code, things we might infer such as the AA map's existence, GE's existence, etc.
@Warvenya, You - Hope of more investment. Me - More of what they've actually given it. Nothing more, nothing less..
The problem is its not just recalc time or event, there are bugs in GVG that need to be addressed and only folks who do GVG on a regular basis feel the pain.
Silly question time from a noob GvG fighter. Why not recalc only once a week? OK, guild rankings won't be up to date for most of the week but that seems like a small concession to make in order to solve the bigger problem. Like I said: silly question. I'm sure you all have thought of it but I haven't seen a post about it in this thread yet.
It would seem an easy enough fix to move recalc to Sun. night just to see what kind of effect that has on the GvG lag. Then, maybe solutions to the other bugs will be easier to find.
I know this is nitpicking, but recalc is not a result of the protection cycle. It was probably convenient to end tile protection at recalc, but the main purpose of recalc is to have a consistent time each day when guild power points earned can be awarded. And it applies to all avenues of earning them in the game. GE and Hall of Fame guild power points are also credited at recalc each day.The problem is that due to the 24hr protection cycle every evening there is re-calc.
I fear my world in this game would explode/implode if calc was just once a week lol.
^ It is this type of elitist arrogance that gives you GvGers a bad reputation. It's also the reason why your issues continue to get very little support from the entire community. To the extent you continue to put down those who have no access to GvG is the extent they will continue to speak out against any investments into GvG that don't include them.I know and understand those who are on phones playing have very little interaction with the finer aspects of this game, BUT since we are all mostly mobile people consider that at least 70% of those active mobile players are also fighters who use the phone version when they are away from the computer. The total of active players in any world if polled would lead to some interesting results - especially if u ask them if they fight.
As I understand things, the developers usually only read the Beta forum, not this one.I am hoping that more than just moderators are following this conversation/ debate/ argument. Game developers need to read Warvenya's and athena9's and others posts
The problem exists in ALL worlds, E world players are most vocal about this right now but for every comment you see here, a thousand agree but have not spoken up yet.
I've said this before. Inno knows how many players participate in GvG, and I know it is an exceedingly small proportion of the total number of players. I'm only restating this because it doesn't help your point to continue quoting unfounded assumptions that you've been told are wrong. I want to emphasize that I am on your side as far as fixing GvG issues. GvG players are a dedicated bunch, and deserve to enjoy GvG with minimal issues, if at all possible. However, the vast majority of active players do little or no GvG at all, and also deserve to be treated with respect. They are playing the parts of the game they enjoy, just as GvGers are, and there is no right or wrong choice in that. GvG is simply one aspect of a multi-faceted game.The total of active players in any world if polled would lead to some interesting results - especially if u ask them if they fight.