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vote your conscience not your wallet

Discussion in 'Debate Hall' started by yee yee boy, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. yee yee boy

    yee yee boy Active Member

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    it is true people vote for people who promise them free this and free that not for people who will do better for there country but those who make promises most of the time are broken and the country is left worse than before
     
  2. Darth Mole

    Darth Mole Well-Known Member

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    Yes, no, maybe
     
  3. Super Catanian

    Super Catanian Well-Known Member

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    This is why I am politically neutral in all political matters.
     
  4. yee yee boy

    yee yee boy Active Member

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    your vote matters
     
  5. Darth Mole

    Darth Mole Well-Known Member

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    Another great thread. Thanks.
     
  6. Super Catanian

    Super Catanian Well-Known Member

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    A warning to @yee yee boy
    He was being sarcastic.
     
  7. yee yee boy

    yee yee boy Active Member

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    i knew that
     
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  8. RazorbackPirate

    RazorbackPirate Well-Known Member

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    My conscious informs my vote and my wallet.
     
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  9. Stephen Longshanks

    Stephen Longshanks Forum Moderator

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    My conscience has been clear since November of 2004, and I apologize for my votes previous to that date. And voting your conscience and your wallet are not mutually exclusive.
     
  10. yee yee boy

    yee yee boy Active Member

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    would your conscience tell u to vote for someone who will save babies over someone who promises u free stuff
     
  11. Stephen Longshanks

    Stephen Longshanks Forum Moderator

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    First of all, nobody promises free stuff. Nobody. Second, the worst way to vote is to vote based on one single issue. That is why this country is in the quagmire it's in right now. My conscience, and my common sense, tells me to look at the entirety of what a candidate stands for and vote based on whether his entire platform is better or worse for the country as a whole than the entire platform of his opponent. I definitely won't get into details of my personal politics, because I would end up fighting with those from both ends of the political spectrum. Both sides are wrong on some things, and both sides are right on some things. For the last 40 years or so, I believe one side has abandoned the good of the country for their own agenda to a much, much greater degree than the other side, but neither side is right about everything.
     
  12. yee yee boy

    yee yee boy Active Member

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    most of the candidates dont care about the people or the country they care about what will make them money
     
  13. Graviton

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    They all peddle "free" stuff, whether it's a sense of security or goodies from the national treasury. Of course, none of it is really free and a lot of it is absurd, but they conveniently leave those parts out, and they count on the blind patronage of their constituents. Both parties enjoy unthinking tribal loyalty in spades.

    That's pretty accurate. I'd also argue that both sides are just two sides of the same coin; they really aren't that different. The federal government is their answer to everything. When you have a hammer, and all that.

    First, the choice is never that stark. The candidate who tells you he's saving babies is lying just as much as the one promising free stuff.

    My conscience would tell me, as it has in the past, to abstain from voting for candidates I don't like, even when that means I leave that part of the ballot blank.
     
  14. BlackSand the Sly

    BlackSand the Sly Active Member

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    Your conscience doesn’t have sides ... It is not necessary to pick a side in politics in order to follow your principles ... Unless you are intent on pursuing a never ending cycle of choosing the “lesser of evils”.

    The government stands between you and your freedoms as well as the ability to pursue your conscience with respect to higher principles than the lowest common denominator.

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  15. Stephen Longshanks

    Stephen Longshanks Forum Moderator

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    That's one way of looking at it. I look at it as the government standing between me and those (both foreign and domestic) who would take away my freedoms.
     
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  16. RazorbackPirate

    RazorbackPirate Well-Known Member

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    Says the man who supports gun confiscation, so the Gov't can take away our freedoms.
     
  17. freshmeboy

    freshmeboy Well-Known Member

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    I would support gun consfication as long as ALL the guns go the same route..that means police without guns, no National Guard with weapons and no military allowed to proclaim martial law in any sector of the US...
     
  18. RazorbackPirate

    RazorbackPirate Well-Known Member

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    Right, because there's a universe where that makes any kind of sense.
     
  19. BlackSand the Sly

    BlackSand the Sly Active Member

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    How exactly can anyone other than the government limit your freedoms under protection of the law?

    Government, by definition (to govern), can only limit freedoms. Freedom does not originate in government. Unless of course you care to have the freedom to do as you are told ... :)

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  20. freshmeboy

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    They call that universe Britain, Razor....
     
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