[Question] What happens at the end of the game? I'm nearly at space age titan and would like to know where i go from there?

[jaymoney23456]

Is it possible to get OF units in IA? I thought the lowest age was Indy...

You have to actually reach indy to have a chance at higher age troops. There is supposedly a player who started a GbG round in iron age and then aged up to indy and then got the higher age troops and was fighting with them in GbG against iron age troops. Trying to do such a thing would be very resourse intensive and I don't see a way it could be done without some serious diamond spending to speed up scouting provinces. Reason being is I can't imagine you wouldn't mess it up so you couldn't get higher age troops if you went too far in continent map in iron age-especially if you tried going higher than PE continent map. Its possible someone did this though its also possible that this is a tall tale someone told to try to impress others-hard to say for sure lol One thig is for sure, doing it from iron age and getting to Indy and enough progress on continent map would be pretty complicated, time comsuming, and resource consuming. Plus you would gain a great advantage in fighting for only 1 GbG map and then it would be no advantage vs. just going to indy the normal way and getting them-its actually easier and more practical to finish getting the higher age units available in PE rather than indy since you need to be able to unlock lots of techs to progress far enough in the story quests (the main way to get higher age units is from the story quest) to get the higher age units.

 

[jaymoney23456]

I don't think you realize how big of a difference 4,500% attack boost would make in Iron Age. Particularly if you're retaining everything from your progress in Titan.

I know prior to the most recent changes in Guild Battlegrounds, there was a Iron Age player that posted a screenshot of using Turturrets to exceed the attrition cap in Iron Age. I forget what boost they had, but it would of been a fraction of that attack stat. Iron Age doesn't get many Expansions to work with and won't have any of the boosts Titan has

If everyone could easily and reliably take units from the Space Ages down to Iron Age.... those are going to greatly outperform Turturrets due to the x2 Keen Eye boost

I'm not against the concept of restarting. However, it would need some restrictions in place to make it viable in a multiplayer setting. There's no way to separate a Space > Iron player in Guild Battlegrounds from the rest of the playerbase. There wouldn't be enough players restarting to separate them. You also wouldn't be able to remove Space > Lower player from the neighborhoods without finding an additional 80 x 20 (1,600) players restarting on each world to do it with. So the only way to have a restarting mechanic is if those who restart are mixed in with those doing it for the first time.

You would need it balanced in a way that restarting isn't going to create too great of a power discrepency, but also retains enough advantage to make it entertaining for the player that's restarting

I agree with ebe, it'd make more sense to travel back and forth between the Space Ages than it would to choose any Age

It would have been a rediculous waste of resources to try to go to start a gbg map in Iron age then go to indy that same round and go for higher age troops given that anyone in a good guild could easily get good amt of fights with attrition free under the old GbG (I saw this supposed screenshot also and it was from before the changes to GbG). Also, anyone with computer knowhow can edit a screenshot to make it look like they were using high age troops vs. iron age troops lol Not saying the player did or didn't actually get the higher age units for a GbG map where they started in iron age but a screenshot is not definitive proof this occured.

 

[Emberguard]

Is it possible to get OF units in IA? I thought the lowest age was Indy...

Back then? Yes

Now? You'd have to find a way past certain Quests and no one's documented how to do so. So until someone figures out how then it'd be assumed to be a no.

 

[jaymoney23456]

Back then? Yes

Now? You'd have to find a way past certain Quests and no one's documented how to do so. So until someone figures out how then it'd be assumed to be a no.

I thought the changes to the early part of the game only impacted ages up to CA or so? If that is the case then it wouldn't probably matter since there wouldn't be a new tech blocker in the story quest that one couldn't get past in the story quest in PE and higher.

 

[Emberguard]

I thought the changes to the early part of the game only impacted ages up to CA or so? If that is the case then it wouldn't probably matter since there wouldn't be a new tech blocker in the story quest that one couldn't get past in the story quest in PE and higher.

No, I'm talking about something else.

Doesn't really matter how they did it, the point I was making is we already know how higher stats would play out without implementing a restart option in the game.

 

[jaymoney23456]

No, I'm talking about something else.

Are there other quests that have changed then?

 

[jaymoney23456]

There is still a guide of how to get higher age units and the wikifandom maps out the path the story quests take to help make sense of the parts of the guide that aren't as clear as they might be.

 

[Big-Bendz]

no one wants to hear your politicized nonsense here

Ok - so alright for you to spout nonsense...but not ok for me because I disagree with you. oh boo hoo - go grab a tissue.....show me a realized well-off socialist country. I'll show you well-off Capitalistic countries. China is communist politically but Capitalist economically. But all the socialist countries are poor and miserable.

 

[Dursland]

But all the socialist countries are poor and miserable.

What?

Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, etc all rank very high on happiness indexes, and quality of life indexes.

In fact Finland was voted the world's happiest country not too long ago.

I won't even address the economics lol, that'd be a long post.

 

[jaymoney23456]

Ok - so alright for you to spout nonsense...but not ok for me because I disagree with you. oh boo hoo - go grab a tissue.....show me a realized well-off socialist country. I'll show you well-off Capitalistic countries. China is communist politically but Capitalist economically. But all the socialist countries are poor and miserable.

The European style social democracies seem to do just fine-how do you like them apples?

 

[Johnny B. Goode]

Ok - so alright for you to spout nonsense...but not ok for me because I disagree with you. oh boo hoo - go grab a tissue.....show me a realized well-off socialist country. I'll show you well-off Capitalistic countries. China is communist politically but Capitalist economically. But all the socialist countries are poor and miserable.

Others have debunked your ignorance on other countries. I'd like to point out that there are already very many successful aspects of socialism at work right here in the good ol' US of A. For example, every type of insurance at its core. The very definition of socialism. Everyone who has a policy pays in, then those who have claims get paid out of that common pool of money. Social Security, one of the best things to come out of the Depression era New Deal. A huge number of seniors would be destitute without it, especially considering that many companies have pretty poor retirement plans, mostly relying on the individuals to have private retirement plans. (And private retirement plans are at the mercy of the stock market and open many people to scams run by shady financial consultants.) The ignorance of today's conservatives about the economic and social history of our country is astounding. There are plenty of other examples, both in government (the very concept of a national armed forces and local police is socialistic at its core), and in private industry (utilities, for example.) Anything where the many pay and the benefits are shared is socialism. Capitalism is greed at the very basic level when you really think about it. The whole point of capitalism is for one person to profit off of another, while the whole point of socialism is for the many to help take care of those less able. Which is ironic because Christianity at its core is socialism personified in Christ, and the majority of American Christians profess disdain bordering on hate for the very concept of socialism.

To be very clear, the history of the United States is that there was almost no middle class before aspects of socialistic policies and mechanisms started to be implemented in both government and private industry. It's telling that the conservatives' dismantling of many "socialist" policies over the last few decades has almost decimated the middle class once again.

 

[Mor-Rioghain]

Nah. I'm still with the dude who asks his daughter if she'll split her GPA with her friend.

 

[PJS299]

Social Security, one of the best things to come out of the Depression era New Deal. A huge number of seniors would be destitute without it

Social Security if flawed. They need to fix it.

Capitalism is greed at the very basic level when you really think about it. The whole point of capitalism is for one person to profit off of another, while the whole point of socialism is for the many to help take care of those less able.

LOL, I think you've got that backwards…

In socialism, the dictator profits off of everybody's suffering. In capitalism, if you work, you get paid. You get what you deserve. There's a reason why that one dictatorship (don't want to be censored b/c German company) in Germany fell. There's a reason why the USSR fell. Even Venezuela rejected the system. But it seems like capitalist countries always come out on top… Interesting.

 

[Johnny B. Goode]

Social Security if flawed. They need to fix it.

No, it isn't. The problem with Social Security is that Congress has been borrowing from the SS Trust Fund for decades, which is the only reason there would ever be a shortfall with it. Defense spending is flawed, if anything in government is.

In socialism, the dictator profits off of everybody's suffering. In capitalism, if you work, you get paid. You get what you deserve. There's a reason why that one dictatorship (don't want to be censored b/c German company) in Germany fell. There's a reason why the USSR fell. Even Venezuela rejected the system. But it seems like capitalist countries always come out on top… Interesting.

Wow! Where to start. Socialism is an economic system, not a system of government. Many countries have democratic systems of government, but mainly socialist economies. And almost all of them function as well as ours, if not better. You should research before repeating flawed talking points. Dictatorships may occasionally coincide with a socialistic economic system, but they are two distinctly different things. In fact, a socialistic economic system functions much, much better in a democratic governmental system than in a dictatorship or communist country. That's why the USSR failed, not because it was a socialist state.
And here is the most unrealistic statement you made:

In capitalism, if you work, you get paid. You get what you deserve.

That is only theoretically true, it does not happen very often in reality. Especially with the decline in the labor movement and decrease in unionized workers. In capitalism as practiced by US corporations, nobody gets what they deserve. Upper management gets way more than they deserve, and everyone else gets less than what they deserve. It would be nice if your statement were true, but it's definitely not.

 

[jaymoney23456]

Social Security if flawed. They need to fix it.

LOL, I think you've got that backwards…

In socialism, the dictator profits off of everybody's suffering. In capitalism, if you work, you get paid. You get what you deserve. There's a reason why that one dictatorship (don't want to be censored b/c German company) in Germany fell. There's a reason why the USSR fell. Even Venezuela rejected the system. But it seems like capitalist countries always come out on top… Interesting.

Socialism is distinct from a type of government (democracy, monarchy, dictatorship). THere are many European states that are social democracies, for example. There are endless examples of the rich benefiting off capitalism and the lowly workers barely getting by in capitalism. THe Soviet Union did not even follow the actual marxist ideas from Marx and Engles. As far as Germany, there was a war you may have heard of called World War II that was the reason for that particular German government to fall.

 

[matr]

Is it possible to get OF units in IA? I thought the lowest age was Indy...

No not in Iron Age, Mooing cat's has a guide on how to get OF troops in Industrial Age. He multiple videos of his city progress as he worked his IA city thru the tech tree and the continent maps.. It took him a year and he ended up with 4 hovers from future and a few turturret's from OF (plus a few other troops from a number of era's, none of which are of much importance but they are fun to play with.) I started my quest for advanced era troops too late on the map and didn't have enough unused research to get past the last several blockers, I got 4 hovers in PE. If you want to go for it, you pretty much have to start immediately when you plant your city. You need to save every tech research possible and then carefully work the story quest and do sector captures in a very specific order. There is one abortable story quest that ruins the whole thing if you abort. You have to keep if for several months and not abort it by accident. If you do manage to get the advanced era troops you have to guard them with diamonds, they die like any others even though they are harder to kill they still die and must be healed or they are lost. I'm struggling on the SAAB map with my hover tanks, it is about the limit of their ability, my fighting skill and my willingness to spend diamonds to heal a lost advanced era unit on 50% of the fights. I'm fighting on because I want another city expansion.