spartacus2.0
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I have more than enough goods to build it, I need supplies, and it does look pretty, but it takes so much space... should I build it?
I have more than enough goods to build it, I need supplies, and it does look pretty, but it takes so much space... should I build it?
LOL, this is a joke right? The first ditch option should be a Himeji Castle.If you are maxed out on leveling up your LoA and have all the supply factories your city can hold, then going with ND could be seen as a last ditch option.
Actually supplies are extremely valuable for doing Unbirthday quests until your Chateau becomes a perpetual motion machine, hence why building an HC is the proper move in any era you decide to camp in. HC and Chateau, two great buildings that go great together.Supplies are the most useless resource in this game, unless you are age rushing (don't age rush, it is not a good idea).
LOL, this is a joke right? The first ditch option should be a Himeji Castle.
Notre Dame should be right after Space Needle, but before Coliseum or Gaia Statue. In other words, never.
Remember kids, Never let friends build a Notre Dame or Coliseum.
Go back and re-read post #3. That's a f2p perspective. There are more useful things to do with the space and resources that a ND would consume, and Himeji has nothing to do with that calculus. If someone wants to build ND anyway, fine. But I'd recommend against it.F2P players will find a use for ND if they cannot come up with what it takes to get Himeji. Do try to see things from different perspectives, mmkay?
ND is as useful as OoD (useless).
F2P players will find a use for ND
I re-read it and still stand by what I wrote. If a GB gets outgrown due to later developments, dump it! I sent ToB down the drain for that reason. Never did build Oracle so no need to get rid of it thankfully.Go back and re-read post #3. That's a f2p perspective. There are more useful things to do with the space and resources that a ND would consume, and Himeji has nothing to do with that calculus. If someone wants to build ND anyway, fine. But I'd recommend against it.
on the contrary, F2P players certainly cannot afford to waste space and FPs in ND. diamond players maybe can, since they can buy their way out off inefficiency.F2P players will find a use for ND if they cannot come up with what it takes to get Himeji. Do try to see things from different perspectives, mmkay?
on the contrary, F2P players certainly cannot afford to waste space and FPs in ND. diamond players maybe can, since they can buy their way out off inefficiency.
Do try to see things from different perspectives, mmkay?
And still you don't see that different perspective, your diamonds must be blinding. Building and then dumping is fine if it works for you, but that's a diamond perspective.I re-read it and still stand by what I wrote. If a GB gets outgrown due to later developments, dump it! I sent ToB down the drain for that reason. Never did build Oracle so no need to get rid of it thankfully.
Since I've gotten HC easily in every city by Iron Age, I humbly disagree. And I am FTP.F2P players will find a use for ND if they cannot come up with what it takes to get Himeji. Do try to see things from different perspectives, mmkay?
And still you don't see that different perspective, your diamonds must be blinding. Building and then dumping is fine if it works for you, but that's a diamond perspective.
A ftp player does not have the luxury of building and then (too soon) dumping a GB, wasting not only fps but also what the real estate it occupied could have produced during the time it was up -- the argument is that there are more efficient uses for the space and the resources a ftp player has to work with.
A ftp player doesn't have the luxury of short-term thinking, so planning has a place. In the case of the ToB, I never built one, never wanted one. I knew the direction I was headed eliminated housing, goods producers, and most barracks -- I was not going to need the extra pop. An early short-term need for happiness was handled more cheaply by using one or two culturals which were soon dumped without regret. Now you can get more space-efficient happy buildings from Events that could be used.
NB I'm not saying never dump a GB. A late-game player may well decide to dump early/mid-game GBs in favor of something else. Ditto the mid-game player for certain early GBs. But for an early-game player, especially a ftp player, build and dump is a costly mistake imho.
Since I've gotten HC easily in every city by Iron Age, I humbly disagree. And I am FTP.
A player that spends fp on a ND is wasting fp that they could have used on the HC instead. HC is a bit more expensive, but not prohibitively so.
The simple answer is no. Here is a list on what I think what great buildings are great, and which are horrible:I have more than enough goods to build it, I need supplies, and it does look pretty, but it takes so much space... should I build it?