DeletedUser11427
Trade policies are set by each guild. BUT, an outside guild trade button would be a great addition to the game
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DeletedUser26965
end trade policies
DeletedUser26965
guilds must end all trade policies NAO!You have no more right to dictate the trade terms than the players who mandate the fair trade system. Guilds and players can determine how they want to trade accordingly. I'm in 3 guilds - 1 is 'fair trade', one is 'free market" as we have literally no rules over trading and the 3rd came up with a trade ratio of 1.5 past colonial age. Which one is right? All of them.
If you don't like a system don't use it. Guilds can determine their own rules and you can always start or find a guild that has the rules you want to utilize.
DeletedUser20367
All that's important is that the members of a Guild are satisfied with that Guild's trade rules. If I don't agree with them then I won't join that Guild.
DeletedUser26965
free trade enter any amount even simpler
DeletedUser26965
no more
DeletedUser26154
No one seems to care about guild rules.
The guild I'm in is supposedly Fair Trade.
Less than half follow Fair Trade Guidelines.
My guild leader mentioned it's a Fair Trade guild multiple times.
No one listens because: Market dictates reality, not a guild leader's voice.
Mustapha00
Well-Known Member
First off, if someone posts a trade and then someone takes that trade, isn't that a tacit admission that it was, at least to the individuals involved, a "fair trade"?
I think Andari has made the most on point comment so far when he says that, at least for those who are members of a Guild which has a stated trade policy, those are really the only trade rules that matter. Four of the five Guilds in which I am a member are so-called "fair trade" Guilds, meaning that they require the 2:1/1:1/1:2 trade ratios except under certain circumstances (and the individual who posts these so-called "unfair trades" is generally required to state why they are doing so). I have known Guild leaders to kick people who would not follow trade rules, which is, in my opinion, entirely appropriate. If you are unwilling to follow the rules, don't join: there are plenty of Guilds on each server.
I think the best solution is one mentioned above: an "Only Non-Guild" Trade button to go along with the "Guild Only" Trade button. Assuming that the Guild has no stated explicit rules on what they allow as non-guild trade ratios, there should be no limits on said ratios.
I think Andari has made the most on point comment so far when he says that, at least for those who are members of a Guild which has a stated trade policy, those are really the only trade rules that matter. Four of the five Guilds in which I am a member are so-called "fair trade" Guilds, meaning that they require the 2:1/1:1/1:2 trade ratios except under certain circumstances (and the individual who posts these so-called "unfair trades" is generally required to state why they are doing so). I have known Guild leaders to kick people who would not follow trade rules, which is, in my opinion, entirely appropriate. If you are unwilling to follow the rules, don't join: there are plenty of Guilds on each server.
I think the best solution is one mentioned above: an "Only Non-Guild" Trade button to go along with the "Guild Only" Trade button. Assuming that the Guild has no stated explicit rules on what they allow as non-guild trade ratios, there should be no limits on said ratios.
DeletedUser26154
DeletedUser26120
If people offered trades in the same ratios that they took them there actually wouldn't be much of a problem.
But as I've stated people just take advantage of the system in their favor. That's why the trade rules are more important and why people emphasize upon them.
It would be great if we were an utopian society where the greater good superseded individual concerns but that's not the reality, which is why we have rules and laws.
But as I've stated people just take advantage of the system in their favor. That's why the trade rules are more important and why people emphasize upon them.
It would be great if we were an utopian society where the greater good superseded individual concerns but that's not the reality, which is why we have rules and laws.
DeletedUser26965
Oh good grief lol, just stop imposing what you think is fair on your fellow guildmates, they have minds of their own and can decide for themselves what they think is fair or in their favor or advantageous to them or not or whatever other hot button term you want to throw at free trade.
DeletedUser26120
You haven't refuted any of my arguments whatsoever, you are simply trying to force your opinion on others.
DeletedUser26154
DeletedUser
I've insisted on a fair trade standard (as defined by individual guild leadership) in every guild where I've been in leadership. When you're in a medium to large guild, there can be pages and pages of just guild trades. If you're going through trying to fill trades for fellow guild members, you shouldn't have to check every single one to make sure they aren't taking advantage of you. This problem would be solved if there were a way to see only trades that have been designated as "guild trades". Lacking that, it is only fair to guildmates to only post fair trades unless pre-arranged and the guild is notified.
DeletedUser13838
I don't agree. Trading up should be harder than trading down.
DeletedUser26154
There's a lot of strong, deep, heart-felt opinions here.
And everyone is right, from their respective points of view.
The only solution to this is.
Free Trade For All.
And everyone is right, from their respective points of view.
The only solution to this is.
Free Trade For All.
DeletedUser26965
Hey just like guilds do with these trade standards.
DeletedUser
The core issue to me with guild trading is trust. I enforce "fair" trade standards whenever I am in guild leadership because members should be able to trust that their guildmates aren't trying to take advantage of them. I have kicked people out of guilds without a qualm when they refused to abide by them. There's always a guild out there for them, just not mine.
DeletedUser26965
Perhaps you should trust your fellow guildmates can make that decision on their own
I know I don't like it when others make decisions for me.