Okay, now that I've calmed down I'm going to address this with minimal emotional ranting.
I believe the community/STATE/ and Church should be more responsible for assisting. I believe in if you teach a man to fish he will eat his whole life, but if you give him a fish, he will be hungry in 4 hours.
The man is incapable of fishing. That's kind of the problem.
And don't throw in the medical card on this.
Excuse me?
Obviously you would NOT be included in this discussion.
Why not, exactly? It is a matter that directly affects me and others like me. I am using myself as an example of someone that, through no fault of her own, cannot take care of herself. Someone that requires a great deal of expensive assistance just to live. I am relevant to this conversation and I'm not going to pretend otherwise because, what, it makes you uncomfortable or something.
I have a daughter that has screwed up, and I REFUSE to allow her welfare.
What does making a mistake have to do with people with illnesses and disabilities? Unless she made the mistake because of an illness or disability, in which case the mistake itself is not the root of the problem.
I have a large church, and I moved back home with my mother to blend households and incomes, so she could go to college and become successful to a fairly independent degree without WELFARE.
That's great, but not everyone has access to the same as resources you and your daughter. Not everyone has family or friends that can afford to help support them. Considering impoverished people tend to come from impoverished families and live in impoverished communities... do I really need to elaborate here?
In a world our kids are taught everyone is a winner, the amount of effort in succeeding has minimized, and I totally disagree. You have winners, you have losers. If you don't do what needs to be done, you lose. Should we give all the Olympians medals simply because they all did their best?
Are you even listening to yourself? This is the comment that got me so upset. Do you seriously not see how unbelievably offensive this is?
What exactly am I trying to win, here? Food, shelter, medicine? I lose at life because, due to factors beyond anyone's control, I am unable to take care of myself. So... I don't get food, shelter, and medicine? I lack the capacity to be productive and am thus unworthy of life? I'll accept a "survival of the fittest" argument but I'd like to think humanity is above that.
I won't die without winning an award for participation. I'll die without the things I feel the state should provide if necessary. I'll die without obscenely expensive medication. I have indeed calmed down but I'm still utterly bewildered at how you could be so... illogical and thoughtless and crass to make such a comparison in the first place. I won't ask you to mince words for my sake but I don't appreciate being informed that, as a loser, I am undeserving of things I need to live, and that those basic needs are as important as a child getting a ribbon for participating in a spelling bee. Because that is exactly what you are saying.
I ignored the part about homeless people. And I ignored the part about student loans. Both of those could be solved by the people in that situation being proactive.
Uh, why? I'd be one of those homeless people if my parents couldn't afford to take care of me. I very explicitly, specifically referred to homeless people that are homeless because they are sick and cannot work, cannot provide for themselves, cannot afford shelter, cannot afford treatment that might allow them to function.
You cannot be proactive in that situation because you can't do much of anything.
As for student loans, these are predatory lending policies specifically designed to target inexperienced young people without much money and trick them into being in debt for the rest of their lives. They don't know any better and/or don't have any other ways to pay for college. My parents are paying for college but once again, not everyone has access to the same resources and not everyone's parents are willing and able to pay for them. And any job you can get without a degree will not pay for college, especially not in addition to living costs. So unless they have friends or family that can help them out, it's either get a loan or don't go to college. Getting a loan in that situation
is being proactive, as opposed to resigning yourself to a life of minimum wage.
It seems people have lost interest in personal accountability...
So you're holding the sick and the disabled accountable for their sicknesses and disabilities? Not even going to get into the vicious cycle of poverty because I already explained it and if you didn't get it the first time, you won't get it now.
but hey, maybe that is why the nation doesn't have a BUDGET!! Go Democratic Senate...YOU ROCK!!!
EDIT: Reread this part; seems I might have misinterpreted it. Still, I have made it clear elsewhere that I do not approve of most democrats in office. Also I just love how this is apparently all the Democrats' fault, a day before you call someone out on blaming everything on Republicans (apparently).