Why is the Carnival Event so underwhelming?

[DeletedUser38297]

Everyone is complaining about how impossible it is to win anything at the Carnival Event. It's really hard to win anything, and when you do the prizes are underwhelming. Like I opened a 230 point chest and got a house! Woopee. This is like gambling at an Indian Casino. You play the slot, you lose your money, you go home early and you don't come back. Sure the house sets the rules, but the customers set the ultimate rule. They don't play.

Loosen up FORGE. You guys are the ultimate cheapskates.

 

[Super Catanian]

And have you played any of the other events that offer great prizes?

 

[UBERhelp1]

Everyone's complaining? I have been trying to tell people since the event started that with a little planning and using the best DS/florin ratio you can come out on top. You probably just click away at the 5% game, then go for gold chests. You also probably open chests when there is a daily you don't want.

 

[DeletedUser38090]

This event is extremely doable for a full level 1 set, where you only need to win 2 set pieces from the chests. Quest rewards gives you 2, and Bronze league, which is easier to get, gives you 1.
Want some strategy for this event? @Ognor the Hood has some:

You want strategy - here it is:

Keep 9 tickets at the ready (11 is max) check as often as possible (ideally three times an hour)

Only play the 2nd game when the prize pool is 200+ florins and only play the 3rd game when the prze pool is 300+ florins (if neither the 2nd or the 3rd game is right to play play the 1st game until you bave 9 tickets)

If a quest gives tickets as a reward ... it is important to finish that quest when u can immediately use those tickets on game #2 or game#3 - winning tickets and using them on the 1st game is bad form

Make sure you never stop collecting tickets hourly (dont fall asleep with 8+ tickets )

This event is straight probability - if you roll the dice a lot with good probabiliies you will do well .... if you play poorly and assume its all luck based u will do poorly

Enjoy the best even

 

[Super Catanian]

Feel free to leave your feedback on my thread where I keep track of my personal progress. There, you will also find tips on how to get good prizes.
https://forum.us.forgeofempires.com/index.php?threads/carnival-event-2019-progress.25303/

 

[Algona]

Everyone is complaining about how impossible it is to win anything at the Carnival Event. It's really hard to win anything, and when you do the prizes are underwhelming. Like I opened a 230 point chest and got a house! Woopee. This is like gambling at an Indian Casino. You play the slot, you lose your money, you go home early and you don't come back. Sure the house sets the rules, but the customers set the ultimate rule. They don't play.

Loosen up FORGE. You guys are the ultimate cheapskates.

Welcome to the forums.

There is an official feedback thread, your post would actually be read there by someone from INNO.

Posting here? All you'll get are fanbois and posters tired of meaningless rants.

I'm the latter. I agree with what should be your point, this event does suck and I can tell you exactly why, But there's really no point, is there? 4 cities with a combined 53K RP. You couldn't understand the answer to the question. You don't even have the background to legitimately ask the question.

You're here to rant about a game you have not played long enough to rant about. Worse, except for your description of the prize you won, every sentence in your post is demonstrably wrong or semantically null.

This isn't just another run of the mill meaningless rant, it's a uniquely stupid post.

Come back when you know enough about the game to have a legitimate question or gripe.

 

[DeletedUser]

I've been here long enough to rant. This is the worst event Inno has. I ignore it for the most part every time they run it. Mostly because I don't have much use for sets, but also because the other chest prizes are the lamest consolation prizes of any event. But that's okay, we all don't have to like every event or feature. In fact, it would be weird if we did.

 

[Super Catanian]

In fact, it would be weird if we did.

People would think that either we have no life or that we are just a bunch of fanboys/fangirls.

 

[Dido 815 the Scourge]

I wholeheartedly agree with Stephen Longshanks. This is by far the worst event I’ve seen since I’ve been playing the game. It’s really more of a gambling event (& diamond/money grab imho) than anything else.

I’ve only spent florins on chests when there was one of the set pieces avail. Out of 3 worlds, no pieces in chest for 2 of them and my main was lucky enough to get 2 pieces from chests making a total of 3 of the 5 needed for a complete set....at level 1....no upgrades.

Meh...I’ll complete the quests and see what happens but it truly sucks thus far.

(PS 240 florins for an archer as a prize in a chest is just stupid and sad.)

 

[DeletedUser36624]

I have over 4000 florins spent on chests and no specials yet. It is very possible to follow an optimal strategy and end up with nothing to show for it. That's what frustrates so many people.

 

[Mustapha00]

I could be wrong on this, in which case my rant here will be even more irrelevant than they usually are.

Has this particular Event in past years offered as a prize Set Pieces?

I'm wracking my brain on that question. My initial response is, "no". If I'm correct on that, then that is my explanation as to why I find this Event to be underwhelming. In past years, you just went for whatever prize you desired, hoarding Florins when the rotating Prize wasn't something you wanted and spending them when it was. You didn't have to wait and hope that the Set Piece you needed would be the rotating Prize and then spend your Florins on a chance to win that Set Piece (and rather a small chance at that). So the Event can be summed up as a "chance of a chance".

And then, of course, each Set Piece can be upgraded. So maybe a "chance of a chance of a chance" is more accurate.

The Set is, by most accounts, very nice, especially if at least three of the five pieces are upgraded. But Inno's focus seems now to be on an endless progression of rewards which must be upgraded over and over again in order to get the most out of them, and, with precious few exceptions (so far at least), the one and only way to get the upgrades are to win them during the Event. All that seems overly complicated to me.

 

[DeletedUser29726]

Last year it was Grand Bridge - a 7 level building that completing without diamonds was like winning the lottery (i spent the diamonds and completed it on my newish world at the time).

The year before that it was just a mishmash of new buildings - Masquerade Ball was probably the 'best' new one then - and noone in their right mind would still want those now. There was however premium buildings available to be won which made many people planning to be in their age for a while happy.

This year is a 5 piece + 5 upgrade set that statistically about half of people who try hard at it and make the right decisions could complete a level 2 set without diamonds - and the prize is decent at level 1 set which almost everyone should be able to finish.

It should also be noted there's many more direct florins from quests this year - about 12k or so. You're going to get to open a lot of chests even if you do make bad decisions in the ticket games.

For these reasons I find this event *much* better than last year's.

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Personally I have been a bit unlucky so far having won 1 piece only on both my worlds I'm playing it. But we're only 3 days into the event - I still expect to do well by the end of it.

Other difference that some people minded - you used to be able to opt out of doing chests for the event and instead just pay an exorbitant amount of florins (5k or so) to get the prize you wanted guaranteed. It was mostly not the 'right' decision (and you couldn't complete the bridge by doing it as the upgrades were only %chance from the chests) - but if you just wanted a couple rogue hideouts or SoKs it worked for that purpose. Generally people aren't happy anymore though with getting a couple rogue hideouts or shrines.

 

[Emberguard]

It should also be noted there's many more direct florins from quests this year - about 12k or so. You're going to get to open a lot of chests even if you do make bad decisions in the ticket games.

Is that including or excluding the tickets from quests/questline?

 

[DeletedUser29726]

Is that including or excluding the tickets from quests/questline?

Excluding. Whatever you manage with tickets on top of that is not included be they generated tickets or quest tickets.

250 * 26 (even quests except for 32) + 500 * 1 (quest 32) + 2500 (milestone) + 3000 (milestone) = 12500

 

[Emberguard]

Ok, so assuming we put tickets on 10 each time - 16 x 5 tickets = 80 which becomes 800 florins + 20 tickets from questline so 1000 florins if all tickets spent on 100%

13,500 florins from just completing quests isn't too bad. Then you've got log in tickets.
21 days x 11 = 231 = 2,310 florins
21 days x 24 = 504 = 5,040 florins

18,540 florins if getting ticket every hour and spending on 100%
15,810 florins if getting 11 tickets a day and spending on 100%



Decent amount for getting base set. Spending diamonds I'm getting on average about 1 piece per 2,340 florins. Worst runs were about 1 per 10k but averaged out once opening more chests. This was using the fan wiki to prioritise chests in this order:

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Worst case scenario it'd be incredibly unlikely a player wouldn't get at least 2 pieces with 18.5k florins. Averaging out they might get 7 or 8 DS's. Even just collecting tickets once a day that's still on average 6 or 7 DS's.

To get a full base set a player only needs to either get into Bronze, finish the questline and get 2 prizes -OR- If they don't get into Bronze then they need 3 prizes.

Lvl 2 set would need 7-8 prizes depending on if they get into Bronze. So basically if you want a full lvl 2 set complete the questline, get 24 tickets a day to spend on 100% game and pretty good chance you should get into Bronze for the final upgrade... assuming the 6 hr slots align in such a way that you're not wasting too many florins right at the end

 

[DeletedUser29726]

Ok, so assuming we put tickets on 10 each time - 16 x 5 tickets = 80 which becomes 800 florins + 20 tickets from questline so 1000 florins if all tickets spent on 100%

26 5 ticket rewards = 130 + 20 = 150 tickets from questline or 1500 on 100%. But it'd be safe to call it 2000 if you play the 15% game wisely or occasionally take cracks at pre-built-up 5% games.

500 tickets from generation would correspond to about 6500 florins this way as well. so you should be at about 21k florins - which should win you 8ish prizes on average - which would be enough for a level 2 set if that's your goal.

Personally I'm planning to go for 9 pieces (1 fountain overlapped between 2 sets + 2 of each of the others) and then select upgrades. I do plan to spend diamonds potentially but mostly not til later in the event when I have an idea how my luck's gone, how many florins I have left to come, and whether i really should go for my ambitious plan or just settle on upgrades to the single set.

 

[Emberguard]

My bad. I looked at the tickets being every second one and for some reason stopped scrolling down at the half way point. You're totally right there's more tickets then I counted. Which should make it doable for a lvl 2 set for the majority of players.

 

[Graviton]

I'm not understanding the volume of complaints for this event. I play on seven worlds and of course I'm having more luck on some of them than others, but on none of them am I completely crapping out like a lot of people are claiming. Generally speaking I play the 15%. I completely ignore the 5%. I do reference the wiki that @Embergard linked to.

Spending diamonds I'm getting on average about 1 piece per 2,340 florins. Worst runs were about 1 per 10k but averaged out once opening more chests. This was using the fan wiki to prioritise chests in this order...
Worst case scenario it'd be incredibly unlikely a player wouldn't get at least 2 pieces with 18.5k florins. Averaging out they might get 7 or 8 DS's. Even just collecting tickets once a day that's still on average 6 or 7 DS's.

To get a full base set a player only needs to either get into Bronze, finish the questline and get 2 prizes -OR- If they don't get into Bronze then they need 3 prizes.

So far I've spent far less than 2340 florins per piece. In my worst-performing city I've won six pieces with 10,380 florins, which is 1730 per. In my best city I have 8 pieces for 3760 florins, which is only 470 per.

I'm thinking this event, like the last one, comes down to frequency of play and choosing the right chests (players, in the case of the Forge Bowl). The more often you sign in and spend tickets, the more tickets you'll accumulate, and the more florins you'll get. If you are unable to sign in more than once a day or so, and if you choose inefficient chests, you're gonna have a bad time.

 

[DeletedUser]

I'm not understanding the volume of complaints for this event.

My complaint is that as I am not a fan of sets, there is nothing to entice me to even play this event. The other chest prizes are entirely underwhelming. So far I have only fulfilled event quests that get filled naturally through my normal game play, and only used those tickets and the hourly ones about every day or so. Then I look at the chests and think, why would I even bother?

 

[DeletedUser29726]

I'm not understanding the volume of complaints for this event. I play on seven worlds and of course I'm having more luck on some of them than others, but on none of them am I completely crapping out like a lot of people are claiming. Generally speaking I play the 15%. I completely ignore the 5%. I do reference the wiki that @Embergard linked to.



So far I've spent far less than 2340 florins per piece. In my worst-performing city I've won six pieces with 10,380 florins, which is 1730 per. In my best city I have 8 pieces for 3760 florins, which is only 470 per.

I'm thinking this event, like the last one, comes down to frequency of play and choosing the right chests (players, in the case of the Forge Bowl). The more often you sign in and spend tickets, the more tickets you'll accumulate, and the more florins you'll get. If you are unable to sign in more than once a day or so, and if you choose inefficient chests, you're gonna have a bad time.

Well clearly you're stealing theirs Best case scenario the average if you could choose the most efficient chest every time is 1700 florins per special - so you're incredibly lucky with how well you're doing. But the flip side of that is people can be incredibly unlucky too. And yes that can be compounded by making poor decisions. Or by having unrealistic expectations. Mostly though it's the miracle of small sample sizes and people not prepared to deal with that.

I've spent 3900 florins on one for 1 total special won, and 6900 florins on another for 1 total special won - all choosing the most efficient chest - it's just bad luck. Not even surprisingly bad luck yet (bottom 5 percentile-ish on the 6900 florins one but some people do need to occupy that area).